Nannies and Bank Holidays

[LouIsAHappyLittleVegemite]

I was wondering how many parents pay thier nannies for bank holidays? I know that it is not required by law to pay extra for working a bank holiday and it is the employers discretion whether to or not. If they do work do you pay double time, TOIL or just the regular day wage.
Thanks

It's whatever is in the contract...

but usually double pay if needed to work

i think now the law is 28days holiday (if full time)so all parents need to pay their nanny for bank hols

so 4 weeks and then 8 bank hols, 2 in may,easter fri and mon, 1 in aug, and then 25/26 dec and nyd

not sure if an employer can make a nanny work a bh, but if i did get asked, i get paid double time (as stated in my contract)_ but i have never been asked to

I just give my nanny bank holidays off. I don't ask her to work any of them because I would never need to, but I suppose if I did, I'd probably either pay her extra or give her a bit more TOIL to reflect the 'expectation' that bank holidays are given off.

To answer the question about whether an employer can make a nanny work bank holiday, yes absolutely, unless the contract specifically says bank holidays off.

The 28 days holiday entitlement can include bank holidays, but doesn't have to. As long as 28 days off are given, it doesn't matter when they are, and bank holidays don't have to be given as time off at all. Obviously the convention is that they are, but there's no compulsion to do so.

i thought bh were now complusary, so flowery you are saying, if the employer wanted to, she could make the nanny work christmas day for example as long as she gave her nanny 5 weeks+3 days holidays?

Yes. Bank holidays aren't compulsory for anyone, otherwise no one would be able to work them, which obviously lots of people do.

Of course the chances of a nanny signing a contract saying that she doesn't get bank holidays off is unlikely, but in theory as long as an employee working 5 days a week gets 28 days off, it makes no difference when those days are.

Basics about holiday entitlement, see paragraph about public/bank holidays.

Most nannies get bank holidays off... don't think I know any who work on a bank holiday.
However, when I worked in IT/Sales&Marketing, I used to work bank holidays and would get time-and-a-half, plus an additional day off the following week.

Lou - are you wanting your nanny to work on a Bank Holiday? If so, have you agreed that with them upfront, written in the contract? If you are at contract (written statement) writing stage and are deciding what to put in it with regards to what the pay would be for a Bank Holiday, I feel it's up to you and your employee to decide - you may for instance decide that you need them to work the bank holiday but can give them an extra day off during the following week.
Have you found a nanny who is prepared to work on a Bank Holiday? Most nannies applying for a job would be assuming I feel that they would be getting Bank Holidays off. Personally I don't mind working Bank Holidays, but I'm not your usual nanny!

Nick - I am the nanny. My family are good but disorganised (I am still waiting for my final draft of a contract). I am going away with them for Easter but I have to work on all bank holidays. I don't mind working really (I don't have a choice actually that I remember is in my contract) I work every other minute of the day anyway. I will just have to check.
Thanks for all the advice everyone.

Oh you're the nanny... I do apologise. I'm not good at recognising names.
As you are going away with them, perhaps there will be times when you aren't needed but are still being paid - plus don't forget about the cost of the holiday itself. Would suggest that you try to agree upfront what your working hours/days will be whilst you are away with them over Easter.

Nooo I work allllll the time, just
didnt know this when I took the job but I like a challenge so that is why I stayed. It's not really a holiday (unfrotunately). It's a 9 hour drive to thier house in another country.
I just wanted to find out what others did- Whether it was the norm to pay extra on BH (have nannied for years but this is first UK job hence the query).

i dont work bank holidays, get paid for bank holidays + have 6 weeks holiday a year

personally i wouldnt work for a family who made an issue about paying me for bankholidays

I haven't broached it yet.
The Mum wont be home until after 10 (when I have to go collect her from the station)
I will ask and see what happens.

I think the norm is to give nanny paid bank hols plus four weeks of paid hols. I don't ever pay the nanny double time, but then I'd be perfectly happy for her to turn down a request to work on a bank hol. I suppose if my job required me to work on a bank hol (which has never happened) then I might expect her to work on the bank hol. But, this has never happened so not really an issue. Actually, even if it did happend, DH would look after the kids whilst I went to work.

Why don't you have a contract???? There seems to be a bit more going on here.

Becuase they are disorganised. I have one. I just have not been given the official copy. I know I should put my foot down but this way they cant hold me to anything if I decide to pick up and leave (and yes I know it can backfire too). I have asked 3 times this month so will ask again. I have a lot of freedom in this job so that is the upside of it.