Found this shocking thread about nannies! Puts me off...

[CottageChicken]

I found this and it has totally put me off hiring a new nanny. We have a fabulous nanny who has been working for us the last few months but is sadly leaving and I know she would never do such a thing, simply because she's out all day every day with the kiddies so wouldn't have time!

NannyNightmare's thread has also put me off.

Anyone else feel the same?

There really is no justification for snooping through emails, her bosses can't tell her anything til they make a decision anyway. I certainly wouldn't tell my bosses "I'm thinking possibly of looking for a new job in the next six months, I'll let you know if I find anything"

As for nanny holidays - gosh, a young probably childless, probably mortgageless, person working a 50 hour week can afford to save up for a trip to Florida. I am disgusted!

"As for nanny holidays - gosh, a young probably childless, probably mortgageless, person working a 50 hour week can afford to save up for a trip to Florida. I am disgusted!"

My thoughts exactly!

I'm 19 and a nanny. I'm also on that forum. I look after two school aged children and am live in and my host family don't ever give me anything to do really (can't complain!) so I have tonnes of time on my hands through the day, it doesn't make me any less of a hard worker! And I work half the amount of time that the other nannies I know do! And they have younger charges, so are busy working twelve hours a day, no lunch breaks, no dinner breaks, unlike you. I think they truly deserve a holiday!

And as for a holiday, I'm saving my butt off for a eurotrip next year, I will come back skint as anything and will have to move in with my parents or OH's parents, neither an option I want but I won't have anything for myself after that! But being childless and oung I can afford to waste time to get out there and see the world before I become tied down with kids and a house! I'd rather do it now than lament about it later!

RachieB and wotulookinat,

That nanny had absolutely no right to the information she went snooping for. None. It can not be justified. And if you think it can, than you need to get your own attitudes in check. Those employers and I hope they read mumsnet and have discovered what their horrible nanny has done have no obligation to discuss things with her until they have come to some decisions. They need to research their options in order to be able to discuss them with their nanny and then ask her if she is interested in any of the options. They can hardly go to her and say we might do this and we might do that and we might do nothing at all, what do you think? There isn't enough information there for the nanny to say. That nanny is immature and well and truly out of line. And you defense of her makes me think you are a bit unprofessionally inclined as well.

completley agree athene

she was bang out of order to snoop and read emails!!

and as she was thinking of leaving and hadnt said anything to her boss then why should they say anything to her about what they MIGHT do

Leave the poor girl alone. She has already stated that she knows what she did was wrong, we all know it too. She was desperate for answers. Personally not what I'd do but it's over and done with. It doesn't make her a bad nanny, just a sneaky one. But then if things were shared more openly then it wouldn't have happened in the first place. No the parents don't need to tell her everything and yes it sounds like they were getting pretty desperate themselves, but sharing even a little information would be nice on occassion. And also, being made redundant couldn't be a nice thing, I'm sure you'd be concerned if you thought you were going to be too!

And I'm curious, how many people on here have done something similar in their time? You are not all completely innocent. I know for a fact that a few years ago I went through my friends email account on numerous occasions because I was desperate for answers and it sounds so ridiculous to me now, I can't believe that I done it and I felt terrible for it afterwards, but I learnt from my mistakes. Just as we all do.

We all know that this is a Mums forum mainly so obviously you'll not have complaints about yourselves, but what about those nannies and au pairs whose things have been rifled through by their host families? I'm not saying that you've done this, but then if it had happened to one nanny would it be okay for her to tar nanny employers with the same brush?

i agree it doesnt make her a bad nanny, she is still the same person who loves and cares for children but the trust element would have gone (for any future employers reading)

i know she said she was wrong to have done it, but also wrong to put it on a public forum

would have been better talking to her rw friends about the situation

but what is done - is done

I hope that the the nanny in question manages to talk to her employers and would prob be better if she found a new job (one she is happy in) and that the emploeyrs found different childcare to suit their needs

btw i LOVE the glittery names and trackers - and yes takes 30secs to do

Good point, being happy in a job is key to being there really!

Honestly, the glitterfest does get on my nerves sometimes, but I learnt to block it out pretty quickly I think the one that gets to me nowdays is sparklyangel's one, because it's the only glittery avatar on that forum and therefore I can see it out of the corner of my eye as I read whereas the siggi ones I can ignore as I'm used to them, I think that one is pretty cool otherwise! I love the trackers too!

You Mums are jealous because we get them on our forum and you don't

Athene I have checked back on my last post....

and yup, as i thought I had said "she did wrong BUT I could possibly see why she was driven to do it" ( in so many words)

why that makes ME unprofessional I do not know

I was hardly "defending" her [hmmm] but trying to see how she might have been feeling / thinking ..

I also still think that they shouldn't / wouldn't
have left paperwork out in view if they didn't want her to know....

But I will not "argue" my point with you,you are somewhat scary

hell even blondes is agreeing with you !

Sorry bit confused as I cant read the original post on NJ. I am registered on there as well but cant seem to link it up

I think the nj post was, quite rightly, deleted.

don't have time to read my own emails, let alone other people's! And nobody cleans my house 'cept me...sometimes...

What I said yesterday was hardly a rant, surely a rant goes on and on? I think I made, what I admitted was a dodgy point, pretty sucinctly. And I predicated it with the knowledge that I was, I know, being unreasonable and onesided. But the thought of someone going through my emails was quite horrific - not that they could, I'm not so daft to make that possible. It really did strike me though, when I went to look on the original site, that there must be some minority dodgy nannies not getting on with their work - and worse still snooping!

I don't suppose the glitzy signatures are an issue. I thought they were childish but that's my opinion. It made me think that it was my year 10s looking after kids. Which is frankly scary. But I could be wrong. I just think of the kids I know who are doing 'chile davelopmunt' .... I wouldn't leave my dog with a couple of them. (nor have my hair done by the ones that do 'air and booty')

I made a decision that my youngster would go to nursery and not have a nanny or CM because I felt that there was safety in numbers: bad child carers may well be in the minority, I'm sure they are. But if my son is going to be unlucky enough to encounter one at least they'll be other decent carers around. It's the thought of leaving my child alone with a nanny that's scary. Now before you RIGHTLY tell me that 99.99999 nannies/CMs are wonderful, the fact that this one was as dishonest to sift through someone's emails does suggest that it's possible that another might be dishonest enough not to look after a child properly - doesn't it?

Sure the poor thing was freaked about her job - and I know cos I work with children too, albeit teenagers, that a job with them quickly becomes more than a salaried position - but she showed her imaturity with her snooping actions.

That said, when I was 12, I used to stay overnight at a posh woman's house, put her 5 and 2 y.0. to bed, get them up washed and to nursery and then myself to school. This was clearly awful, when I think back; BUT the worst snooping I ever did was to read The Joy of Sex which was on the coffee table anyway...

Blondes and I luv each other. She is on my team.

Actually, I was bit hard on you. But what you said does sound like a defense and I just hink she shouldn't be defended. She snooped. End of. What she should have done is said, I'm sorry I wasn't looking but this was left on the table. I am worried. If I need to be looking for a job I would appreciate if you would tell me if there is something I need to know. There is a really tough market out there and it might take me months to find a new position. Now, THAT would have been a professional response.

Actually, I think the thread and the public rant was worse the initial snoop. She doesn't have a right to know everything the parents are maybe considering. She has a right to her contractual notice period. Just as the parents don't have a right to her looking for a job. But, they have a right to her notice period (which presumably is the same as theirs).

why cant i read the link?

I think the other message board have taken it off!

i am agreeing with athene as she is right (for once )

yes i am a nanny and yes nannys will generally back each other up - esp on these type of threads

but i alsosupport the one who is in the right

any nanny would be up in arms if an employer read their emails and looked throught their paperwork

and yes also agree with ebb - glad it got deleted

Come on. Admit it. It is becuase you luv me.

love is in the air .......

I might luv you if the feelings were returned

and you were right - but dont think I will always agree with you

Eilatan - Hey good luck with having your child in nursery!! You sure you know what goes on in those god-awful places?

Eilatan - having worked in a fair few day nurseries over the last 12 years I can honestly say that there is no way on earth I would ever put my child into one. I understand there are some good ones out there but the majority are full of inexperienced girls who couldn't care less.

I am a nanny on nj with a ticker counting down 3 months to Florida, I have work nearly 60 hrs a wk with extra some weekends for the last 3 years so I can afford to go on holiday, I have to pay my bills including a mortgage just the same us you. How dare I be excited and take 2 mins to put up a ticker counting down to it.

And as for us nannies having alot of time on our hands, some days I barely have enough time to go to the loo (and I don't even get to do that on my own sometimes!)I'm not complaining I love my job and the children I look after but it really gets to me when people suggest its an easy job were we sit around watching TV or online all day.

Unless you look after your child yourself, you will always have to take the risk of a bad nanny/childminder/nirsery looking after your child.
Being a nanny myself, and now mummy to be too, I can see both sides.
There are many good nannies out there, don't be put off, just make sure you do the checks and make sure you get the person you feel is right for the job, not the person that charges the least.
There are soooooo many bad parents out there, that never put me off becoming one, also there are so many nasty and misbehaved children out there too - also never put me off wantng to have my own.
There is always good and bad where ever you go.

It's upsetting to us good nannies to be tarred with the same brush as bad nannies. I don't think the poster of that thread is bad..just scared about losing her job in difficult time.