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SillyMillysMummy · 27/02/2009 15:10

i have only been registered for 4 months and they want to do my inspection next week! I am away all weekend now until sunday night, but i have kinda told a fib saying i only have ad hoc children, so is calling back monday to arrange. So my questions are. 1. Will they look at my contracts and find me out?

  1. Is there anything they will definately look for?
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LucyTownsend · 27/02/2009 15:24

Eeek! Me too, but Ive got a respite in that they are not coming until possibly 13th March!

Panicking a lot now...

LisaD1 · 27/02/2009 16:22

Hi,

I have just had my inspection and it went really well, they will want to see your contracts etc. The inspector that did my visit was very interested in all aspects of my paperwork but equally interested in how I interacted with the children.

Although she was thorough and professional she was also very pleasant and it was nowhere near as scary as I had wound myself up into believing!

Hope it all goes well.

Lisa x

looneytune · 27/02/2009 17:10

Good luck you two, I've got mine next week and very nervous but hopefully I'll get a nice 'human' inspector like Lisa A local friend just had hers and it went well and she was really nice so fingers crossed (although I don't have the same person!). I think I'm just worried because although my last inspection result was good, I found the way she was not very nice. I'm hoping that this time they will be nicer.

SMM - yes, they will look at your contracts etc usually. Maybe you could make out you never said that and that she must be confused with someone else? Not really sure what else you could say? And if you want ideas of type of thing they look at, you could also have a look at local Ofsted reports of childminders in your area?

HSMM · 27/02/2009 20:38

Surely they are more interested in Child Details, etc than contracts. Aren't contracts our own business arrangement with the parents? Nothing to do with ofsted what my hourly rate is, or how much notice parents are required to give? I have never shown them my contracts.

Chatkins · 27/02/2009 20:40

People who have recently been inspected, can I ask, what did they ask to look at in reference to EYFS ?

underpaidandoverworked · 28/02/2009 19:08

They will ask to see contracts as they come under the 'Documentation' part of the Welfare Requirements section of the EYFS - they aren't interested in your accounts, however, that is personal to you.

Regarding EYFS, they are hot round here (North East) on observations and assessments and working with other profesionals and parents. Risk assessments is another big one. Mine is due in next few weeks too - think I'm just about ready for it! As Looneytune said, check the Ofsted webby for your local area and read some recent reports - see if you can find reports done by YOUR inspector (they should have given you their name).

Most importantly, they are there to watch you interracting with the children and how the children react to you, your understanding of their needs and stage of development - just be yourself and do what yo do every day, that's what I'm going to do!!

Good luck, let us know how it goes

PAPERFREEK · 28/02/2009 22:11

if you know who your inspector is going to be go on line and look at all the inspections he/she has done in the last months since Sept when EYFS was introduced and see what he/she is hot on. Look especially at the recommendations.

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Make sure you have a complaints file and check you have the most up to date 'Concerns and complaints about childminders and childcare providers updated in November 2008'.

Make sure you know about the 3 registers and which ones you are on. Make sure you have which registers you are on stated on your registration certificate or you have your letter from Ofsted stating which registers you are on.

Make sure you know what things are different on each register, for example do you need written policies on all registers, what is the difference in how long you have to reply to a complaint/concern.etc.

Check inspectors ID's at the door.

Make sure your key to the front door is handy. There is nothing worse than looking for the key to open the door to the inspector, then trying to tell them that it is always available in case of a fire. I have mine on a hook by the front door and it has a great big laminated sign attached to it saying 'fire exit key do not remove' to stop my husband, kids and myself using it as a spare key if theirs is mislaid.

Have your car insurance and mot certificates handy. I know someone who got marked down because she couldn't find them.

Turn the TV off. Don't let inspector feel it is on in the background when you are minding.

If you have crawling babies ask the inspector to remove her shoes when she comes in and ask her not to leave her handbag on the floor, she could have anything in it, headache pills? etc. She will be impressed by your forethought.

Make sure all your paperwork is to hand.

Wipe down the changing mat before and after use. Don't let the children use it for their dollies after changing the baby. I know someone who did and was marked down.

Make sure all socket covers are in place and there is no water lying in anything outside if it has rained.

Check for dog muck in your gardens (you dont have to have a dog for muck to appear). Check the pathway immediately in front of your setting.

Make sure you ask children if they know why they are washing their hands if they use the toilet. A childminder friend of mine was marked down because even though the child washed her hands she didnt discuss germs.

On the ofsted site there is good leaflet about Administration of medication to children in registered childcare - check you know what is on it, run a copy off and have it handy in case the inspector asks you about how you administer medicine.

Check use by date on any medicines you give to children on a regular basis. Have a note in your diary of the dates they need replacing.

Also have a note in your diary of any courses you may need to update - 1st aid etc.

Do you want more?

nomoreamover · 01/03/2009 08:32

paperfreak - I'm loving it!!!!! I am scribbling a little list here and barking orders to DH about cleaning the front path of all the leaves! Good point about the muck in the garden - its cats you got to watch they will muck anywhere!

I already hang my keys for evey door by the door frame of each - but LOVING the idea of a sign saying do not remove - DH is always wondering off with my front door key cos hes too lazy to dig his out of his rucksack!

bring us more paperfreak - I am now your most avid fan!!

nomoreamover · 01/03/2009 09:00

Just to add - I also have been going through the Statutory Guidance booklet that comes in the pack and making sure I can tick off everything listed.

For example I realised that my pile of paperwork had to be stored securely so that confidential stuff didn't fall into the wrong hands!

Its a useful checklist - the statutory stuff is the crucial stuff and its amazing how easy it is to miss something crucial when you are bogged down with details!

PAPERFREEK · 01/03/2009 15:19

Check your fridge. Although the inspector usually will not look in your fridge, you may need to get something for the children to eat or drink and she/he may be standing behind you. If your fridge is full of diet coke as mine is you may feel it is an idea to change this for fruit juice or bottled water. Also make sure there is no alcohol in any of your cupbourds or fridge.

Matches and cigs a no no. As is sharp knives in drawers.

Have your fire blanket handy, display your fire drill, clear exits - are they clearly marked?

On the healthy eating side, I have an old woman who swallowed a fly puppet and a puppet dressed in a doctor outfit. I sat the littlies down with play fruit and veg and acted out the story of the old woman. I then said she had sore tummy, and sang miss molly had dolly who was sick - enter the doc - then I asked the littlies what she should eat to make her healthy. The children chose to feed her the fruit and veg etc. Using puppets and props is popular with ofsted as is starting with one theme and letting the littlies move you onto another.

Another easy and cheap activity I did while on my inspection was to get the children to make headbands with cardboard ears stuck on them. The children wore the headbands to walk round the setting to 'listen' to various sounds (washing machine, radio, cd, tv (turned on and off again) bell, door banging, etc. Ofsted like to know you are teaching the children to listen as well as speak.

I have made 26 letter bags which are hung above the coats by my front door. In these bags are items starting with each letter. Some of the things are really unusual. The children love these bags and will go and choose one to explore, spontaneously and when asked. Even the toddlers will go and point to them. There are things in them like 'b for bus' we sing wheels on the bus. If you dont have time to make material bags, look for cheap white pillow cases on the market and make a few, you dont have to do 26, just say its work in progress.

We have made an 'alphabet book of the setting' in it are pictures A - Z of the children I mind doing things that are relevant to them. Eg. Picture of one of the children called Laura Laughing for the L page. Another of a child I mind ironing under I for ironing. Another of myself having an Xray at the hospital when I hurt my foot. The kids love this book and even the toddlers can tell you what the letter is and what it is for. Because they can relate to it.

Problem solving, reasoning and numeracy. I have a 'shop' in the corner of the playroom. We stock this with real food from the supermarket. The children take turns to work in the shop, as cleaners, shelf stockers, sales assistants etc. We sell the food to the parents. Anything that isnt sold I use for the day for snacks or I use for my own family. The kids learn to count etc and the parents are really happy to buy things that they have suggested themselves. I know toddlers are perhaps a bit young for handling money, but they can handle laminated money from ELC, and they soon get the concept.

Knowlege and understanding. I have a box with pictures that I have cut out of old magazines, car boot bought books, leaflets in doctors surgeries, etc. These pictures are of all nationalities, ages (very old, very young and in-between) children crying, laughing, scared, animals, homes, etc etc, it is my kuw box,the pics are all laminated (tip is to put the pic onto white paper, cut round it, then laminate, that way you will only have the pic you want in the box not half a pic on the other side which could confuse). The babies, toddlers, and kids love getting this box out and it is great for making conversation.

Physical Development: I bought a couple of pieces of end of roll carpet in different colours (some shops will give you this free), I cut out shapes - red squares, yellow triangles etc. and use these to do lots of activities with the children. I have very soft balls and pop up bins for the kids to practice their aim. I have ribbons bought from a car boot, fastened together at one end for dance routines.

For a quiet reading area, I haven't got room for a permanent place so I took a pasting table, removed the legs, put in hooks about half way down each side (inside) and put net curtain rail across. I filled this with books. The kids decorated the outside of the table and this made a portable book case. I made some cushions and matching bags to take to the library. Each bag has a see through pocket where i slip in the child's photo. I made the pockets by cutting up an old raincover and sewing it onto the outside of the bag. Ofsted liked the connection between the setting and the library.

When I do observations of the children, I put in a place for parents to make their own comments, it could be to let me know the child has done this at home or that parents would like me to expand on this aspect of their learning etc. Parents are given the observations at the end of the week and they give me them back on the Monday, I then use the information on these to plan for the next stages.

For hygiene I rang my local council and asked to borrow their glitter bug pack. This consists of a plastic dome which has a ultra violet light in it. The children put the powder on their hands then wash it off, they then put their hands under the dome and watch how the light picks up any powder still on their hands. I explain this is how germs survive and the importance of washing their hands thoroughly. Makes great pictures.

Am I ranting or do you want more?

Geepers · 01/03/2009 15:29

Paperfreek I want to send my children to you! You sound fabuloso! Keep up the good work.

TheDevilWearsPrimark · 01/03/2009 15:35

Wow paperfreek, you sound amazing! I'm considering using a childminder as nursery is getting so expensive. I want you!

MiamlaHasADaffodilBehindHerEar · 01/03/2009 15:40

i was thinking exactly the same thing as you Geepers!

PAPERFREEK · 01/03/2009 15:59

I used to be a support childminder till sure start decided to withdraw the scheme from childminders and take it into the children centres. Minders used to come to my setting and see how I work and take ideas etc back to try themselves. I have been minding for 17 years so i have had long time to practice.

I do have a wonderful bunch of kids and parents. I look after 15 at the moment, including two sets of 3 siblings and 4 sets of 2 siblings. All ages from 1 year to 10 years. I have children who come back to visit who were 2 when i took them on and are 19 now.

Unfortunately, I am not so good when it comes to common sense where animals are concerned. I have a lot. My kids and mindees are crazy about animals and my house is like a zoo. My son's two chinchillas were supposed to be boys and we have just found two kits in the cage omg they are so cute. Now we have 4.

As you can see, paperwork has to be quick, easy and effective.

NanaManchester · 01/03/2009 23:12

Paperfreek, how on earth do you manage 15 mindees? Your paperwork must send you CRAZY!
Have you any tips on how to keep it 'quick, easy and effective' ??

thebody · 01/03/2009 23:40

I thought I was ready and now Paperfreek I am ready to hide my head in shame, mind you my littlies are really little so lots of your ideas would be beyond them, but you have sure given me food for thought. Well done.. you sound fantastic..

Numberfour · 02/03/2009 06:39

paperfreek, your list is just brilliant! Thanks so much.

thebody, don't panic! I have been minding for 3 years and my pracitice is nowhere near paper's. remember that we only HAVE to get satisfactory because that shows that we are meeting the standards. anything over and above is a well earned bonus. get your basics in order before adding optional extras. paperwork, environment, happy children are your basics!

(having said that, I have just copies PF's list because I am due my inspection in a couple of months..... thanks Pf!)

SillyMillysMummy · 02/03/2009 09:22

Thanks guys am gonna have a good read through the rest of the thread now, Ofsted rang as I was on my way to a weekend away and I have returned with a nasty case of tonsillitus think the nice ofsted lady with take pity?

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SillyMillysMummy · 02/03/2009 09:41

oh jesus i am completely inadequate and am going to fail miserabley, I do feel that they could have left it a little longer, I have only been registered 4 months, and only have 2 ad hoc contracts and 1 who is with me 1 day a week, its very difficult when you dont have them that often

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KatyMac · 02/03/2009 10:15

SMM - I have some nice planning sheets & you could plan 2 or 3 activities - if you want to email me

SillyMillysMummy · 02/03/2009 11:15

Thanks katymc my addy is [email protected]

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Jackmummy · 02/03/2009 11:36

If you're ill you could always delay it!

SillyMillysMummy · 02/03/2009 12:16

jackmummy am hoping so she is supposed to be calling me back today to arrange when she is coming, she wanted either wed/thur this week or maybe monday next, so am hoping she will let me away with monday next now... a little longer to do the tweeks would be nice

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Numberfour · 02/03/2009 13:36

SMM, calm down! the fact that you are concerned about it shows that you are certainly not inadequate. remember that you only need to achieve the standards. the pressure to beat them is put on us by OFSTED!! postpone it now because you're ill. cannot have the extra hassle while you're poorly.

i have no doubt that you will not be rated inadequate!!

PS i got satisfactory at my first (and so far only) inspection. so, you see - there are FAB childminders out there with "only" satisfactory

SillyMillysMummy · 02/03/2009 16:01

No4, you sound like my hubby I know i look after my mindees well, they are all happy and healthy i just worry that i have missed something

you are right, should be aiming for satisfactory

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