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Unqualified sister being asked to do full time nanny job in half term- is this ok?

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charlie5 · 15/02/2009 17:32

Hi everyone, would really appreciate your advice on this subject as a non parent I have no idea on this and am just a bit concerned about this- probably overly so.

My sister works full time at a school in a non teaching role. She also holds holiday and after school clubs through the school.

One of the school mums has asked her to look after her 2 children (5 and 6) from 8.30- 17.30 for the 5 days of half term at their house.

No salary has been agreed or any guidelines on what my sister is expected to do. She will be doing 40 hours (1 day half day) of nannying.

What salary should she be entitled to for 2 kids for 8 hours a day. She has no childcare qualifications but does supervise groups of around a dozen kids in her school role.

I have seen that nannies cannot be self employed? How can you make someone act as an employer in this instance?

If my sister takes the kids out of their home to an activity is she ok to do this as a non registered but paid person?

My sister is keen to do the work to supplement her income but I am just concerned that a) she may be taken advantage of and b) there may be rules on this that neither she or the mum are aware of.

Any comments or advice would be much appreciated to ensure all parties are protected in this situation.
Many thanks
Charlie

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scienceteacher · 15/02/2009 17:33

If she has a CRB check, and wants to do the job, she is good to go.

PaulaMummyKnowsBest · 15/02/2009 18:44

as long as the mum is happy and the childcare is taking place in the childrens' home, there is nothing to worry about.

Her car needs to to be properly insured if the children are going in it.

Millarkie · 15/02/2009 19:14

There are no 'Childcare' rules or qualifications for nannies - as long as she looks after the children in their own home - this includes trips out to soft play etc - but not if she takes the kids to her own home to play there.

As for being taken advantage of - she needs to find out how much she will be paid (which should be including her food and expenses (entrance fees to places she might take the kids, petrol money (normally 40p per mile) etc). And she needs to find out whether they intend to pay cash-in-hand (most likely, and is breaking the rules unless your sis can work out a way to pay her NI/Tax) or whether they will properly employ her for a week. Also terms for sick leave (just in case - would usually be unpaid/SSP).
And it's worth her asking the family for a 'nanny book' listing children's routines, likes/dislikes, allowed/forbidden foods, places they like to go..I also put in details about the house (where the stopcock is,etc in case of emergencies).

For what it's worth, I used to employ a trainee teacher as a nanny during school holidays. She earned £300 gross per week (which, since she earned under the personal tax allowance she got net pay + tax and I only had to pay NI/employers NI to the IR). I'm outside London but in the SouthEast.

I employed our 'holiday nanny' for over a year, each holiday, so she earned more than she had done as a shop worker in her previous holiday job, and we had a great nanny who the kids loved for each holiday... it can work really well!

tankie · 15/02/2009 22:23

Salary is really going to depend on the area you are in and what they agree to - no less than about £6 an hour, up to around £8 I would guess.

nannyL · 15/02/2009 22:34

you do not need any qualifications to be a nanny

its is fine and as previously said they only thing she needs to worry about is buisness insurance for her car if she takes the children in it

i have nanny insurance and wouldnt work without it, BUT in order for it to be valid you need a contract, which i would have thought would meen making bosses employers?

but if its just a week i would just do it cash in hand... its not like anyone is going to find out.

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