Is £500 a month gross a reasonable salary

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for a live out nanny?

This would be for 2 days a week....hours usually 9-5 but occasionally longer (say 8-6) but many days would be less hours to compensate.

Duties would be just playing with the kids, taking them to the park, playgroup etc, making a light lunch and picking older ones up from school.

No cleaning or laundry apart from cleaning up after lunch and tidying toys.

The other thing is the 2 days would need to be flexible but with plenty of notice as to which 2 days would be required.

Is this possible?? Are we likely to get a nanny into this type of job? We are not London way, we are rural Midlands.

16 hours per week, 832 hours per year (give or take), £500 per month, £6000 per year
£7.21 ish per hour.

I am assuming £500 per month is Gross pay (as I always do when it isn't otherwise stated). As it is a part-time job, it is very important to you as the employer to agree the wage Gross, as the nannies personal tax allowance MAY NOT be allocated to your job.

£7.21 per hour is above National Minimum Wage, so it meets the legal requirement. I have had a full-time job paying a similar amount in the past, but part-time jobs do tend to pay more - as the person needs to find other work to fit around your job, if they require full-time work.

You want the 2-days to change? I would doubt that many people would be able to accommodate that. You will need to look for someone who only wants a couple of days work, not someone who wants to patch together two part-time jobs.

Salary wise, you may be able to get someone just out of college / just starting out nannying at that level - though if you need someone with prior experience then I would expect salary will need to go up a bit, probably around £8 Gross per hour.

Have you looked at other jobs in your area? It can be useful to search nanny adverts (at NannyJob.co.uk) to see what other employers are offering.

There is a job being advertised in Stourbridge for example... 4-days a week for £5.43 Net per hour. If I do Net to Gross salary based on usual tax code thus assuming they have no other jobs... then it's around £16220 per year Gross, which is £6.78 per hour Gross. Thus not dissimilar to your £7.21.

I think you can give it a go at that salary figure, then adjust the salary as necessary to obtain a suitable candidate. I do however feel you need to FIX the two days.

Rural midlands I wuld say try it and see what you get - you might be lucky and it's not a bad wage.

ahhh thank you!
so not a completely laughable amount

yes the salary is gross

thought the flexibility of the 2 days was bit too much to ask but it is the ideal....I could fix but it would involve much more juggling on my behalf although for the right candidate I would definitely do that.

My DH wants to offer £400-£450 for the 2 days...seeing as £500 is reasonable do you think this salary is acceptable as well - sorry my maths is awful. I'm not tryng to penny pinch of get cheap labour but the cost issue is absolutely vital in whether I can accept a job offer or not and I really need to get back to work as a matter of urgency.

thanks again for any input

the wage is ok,but as nick said it is very unlikley that you will be able to find someone who is happy to do any 2 days, as they may have another 3day job

what is possible is maybe having ananny with her own child, who they bring (if you are agreeable) and then she would only work for you,and have 3 days with her own child

ooh just wanted to add that we were going to offer 5 weeks holiday (pro rata) plus all bank holidays should they fall on working day, plus xmas eve and all the days between xmas and new year should a working day fall on those days

is that reasonable as well?

Holidays must meet the minimum legal requirements. Holiday Calculator - based on a 1st March 2009 start date, minimum holiday is 11.1 days. Therefore 5 weeks (10 days) plus all Bank holidays falling on working days plus the days between xmas and new year should be fine. If your employee didn't work a Monday or a Friday and you had been only offering Bank Holidays then you would need to look closely at when they occur as there are very few Bank Holidays which are not on a Monday or Friday (Christmas Day and Boxing Day I think - as their day of the week changes).

I doubt you would get anyone to work a 2-day a week job for under £7 per hour gross, so I would not suggest lowering the salary. You could try offering £6 per hour gross and see what happens but my view is that £7 is more likely.

If you get a nanny with her own child she might settle for less money and being more flexible.

i agree - your best bet sounds like a nanny with her own child/ren - a single childless nanny will need to work full time more than likely and so your set up wouldn't be so appealing to them...good luck!

I think 4 weeks plus bank hols is the norm for holiday entitlement. I would go with this because you will need a handful of holidays from your work to cover things like nanny sickness.

"...... The holiday entitlement increased to 4.8 weeks from 1 October 2007 and will further increase to 5.6 weeks from 1 April 2009.
The holiday entitlement can include bank holidays.
If you already receive paid time off for bank holidays in addition to your four week holiday entitlement your holiday entitlement has not increased..........."

Are you still looking for a live out nanny and where are you in the Midlands?
I could be interested if you are close to Evesham.