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How to go about finding a live-out nanny to pick DD up from nursery?

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FeelingLucky · 30/01/2009 14:24

I'm going to phone Kenisngton nannies, but how else might I find a nanny?
Lots of people have mentioned gumtree, but will I be able to do my own CRB checks without going through an agency?

Also, I know I have to pay tax and NI. What about holidays?

We'll only need nanny from 3.30-7pm so how will holidays work out?

Any tips hugely appreciated, TIA

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sorrento · 30/01/2009 14:33

It's very hard to find somebody decent that will work those hours but if you're in London you might have more luck than I did.
Anyway I got the nanny to register with ofstead, for £100 I got a CRB check, references and the ones that were a bit funny about registering didn't get through to 2nd interview.
I actually ended up paying the nanny from 12 to 7pm and got her to do loads of housework, school uniform washing and ironing, pet walking and even DIY and painting until 3pm when she picked the children up.
However I still got a fruit loop, so reference check him/her back to high school.

frannikin · 30/01/2009 14:34

If nanny is OFSTED registered she will already have a CRB check.

nannyjob, netmums and Gumtree

You don't have to do tax and NI if nanny is earning less than £97/week. Holidays are calculated on a pro-rata basis. So you would need to work out what proportion of a full-time working year she is working and work out how many hours she will get off. It probably works out to around 4 days....

frannikin · 30/01/2009 14:36

That's 4 full days btw - so you'll need to work out how that works out in terms of the hours worked.

asg198 · 30/01/2009 15:40

Holiday wise, if she will be working a full week for you, then she gets the normal 4 weeks plus bank holidays off, holiday is worked out pro rata (sp) ont he number of days worked, so 4 days would be 80% of that.

nannynick · 30/01/2009 18:47

Use the Holiday Calculator to calculate the amount of Holiday that your employee is entitled to. The amount of holiday every employee gets will change this April, so the calculator will ask you the start date of the employment (guess this, such as 1st March, 1st April as appropriate) and it will work out the holiday entitlement taking into account the upcoming changes.

If they work 5-days per week, then from 1st April they are entitled to 5.6 weeks off.
The time of day they work makes no difference, the calculator will tell you how many DAYS they get off over the next 1 year period.

For Tax and NI you should be able to use the Simplified PAYE scheme, as you are unlikely to be paying over £700 per month (the current limit for Simplified PAYE).

You should agree a GROSS salary, not net (take home). An employees tax code can change during their employment with you (for various reasons) and by agreeing a Gross wage you won't lose out by those changes - you just deduct more/less of the nannies salary and forward it to the taxman. PAYE is also done based on the Gross Salary figure, so much easier to do it yourself if you have started with a Gross salary figure.

frannikin · 30/01/2009 19:03

Nannynick - is holiday not calculated in hours? In my PT contract I had the number of hours holiday I had per year because it was related to the number of hours I worked per week (but then I guess it probably worked out difficult to write in days).

nannynick · 30/01/2009 19:10

It can be calculated in hours if that is how your agreement is, though keep in mind that your holiday hours need to be taken during your usual working hours... thus annual total holiday could be expressed in days and remaining hours, or even weeks, days and remaining hours.
The calculator will work out based on Days or Hours - select at question 2.
If someone worked 20 hours per week and started on 1st April 2009, then they get 112 hours holiday that annual leave year.

stephla · 30/01/2009 19:25

I advertised once through nannyjob.co.uk and got a good response.

May also be worth registering with nannyshare.co.uk. You may find someone with a younger child who can "share" their nanny with you. (This can be both children being cared for at the same time, or it could be finding someone who wants a nanny mornings only).

stephla · 30/01/2009 19:27

Also you may find one of the people who works at the nursery might be interested in the extra cash. At least your child will know them. Approach the principal first though - some of them can be a bit funny about it.

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