Ballpark figure for the following job anyone?

[hobbgoblin]

Having been a nanny I should know the answer but I don't because it's too personal to me and what I wish childcare cost rather than what it does!

So any help with a weekly or monthly salary for the following job to be in July, please?

Hertfordshire area
3 children in school aged 9, 8 and almost 6
1 baby 2 months old
Nursery duties plus after school collection and supervison til parent returns from work
Very light household chores
Hours of 8.30 until 5.30 with occasional variation within the same hourage

Ofsted registered or with qualifications ready to be registered.

Live in and Out salary would be interesting as would salary if the job included occasional babysitting.

Hope I don't fall over in shock!

guess depends on how old and how much exp/qualified they have as well as area ( not sure of wages in herst wages - but sure nick could help)

would have thought at least 8ph nett, so £70ish a day

so £350+ a week nett

live in prob £250+

Okay that's not quite as bad as I had imagined. Will bump for nannynick though as I agree, HE WILL KNOW!!

I don't mind about qualifications too much beyond the Approved Childcarer status, but I would want the person to be totally confident and capable with a newborn and happy around older children. I know that qualifications don't guarantee this so it will be a lot about gut feeling I think when it comes to actually recruiting.

There is a girl who I know very well and who babysits for me occasionally. She qualifies in May this Year and though I think she will pass her NVQ no problems she isn't necessarily supernanny iyswim. Her main pluses are that she knows and loves the children, can be trusted 100 percent (ignoring the odd sweetie she has given when I wouldn't and occasional letting them stay up too late until I mentioned it) and she will be newly qualified and a possibly slightly cheaper option. I'm afraid to say the latter is a consideration for me on quite a low salary myself unless I can gain a promotion over the next several months!

Best thing to do is to look at what other parents are currently offering candidates for jobs in your area. Try searching NannyJob.

I'd say generally that a Live-Out candidate may be wanting £8-£12 gross per hour... so perhaps budget for £100 per day, which £500 per week, which is £26,000 Gross Annual Salary.

Blimey - when you put it like that ! Is it still the case that WFTC only pays up to 80 percent of childcare costs for families with 2 or more children and that if you have 2 children then it is capped at something like £200 per week? I've 4 children so it costs a lot more than £200 per week!!! EEK!

Someone you already know may well be ideal, if they have some prior baby experience (as your baby will be very young initially). You can probably get them at a lower cost as well.

I nannied on the Herts/Cambs border in 2001 for 3 children 4,2 and nb and had a seperate studio flat. Worked 8-6 Mon to Fri and was paid £275nett a week. I would imagine wages have gone up a bit but as everyone keeps saying it's an employers Market at the moment but I still maintain you get what you pay for.

WTC is capped - they don't make any allowance for if you have 4 children v 2 children. See HMRC leaflets WTC2 and WTC5 for details about what childcare WTC will contribute towards. In WTC5 (2008 edition) - see page 7 the maximum limit is 80% of £300, which is £240 per week. So if paying £26,000 WTC does not even get 1/2 way there. Plus don't forget about Employers NI - which on £26,000 is another £2650 or around that. Plus tax rates will change in April, so these figures could go up (or down).

Clearly the lower you can agree the salary, the better... but if they are Live-Out you can't go below NMW (which varies according to age).

In previous discussions on here I've asked if any nanny is paid by parents claiming WTC. No one has come across it... so no one has experience of how the money is actually paid. You will need to consider what happens in the event that WTC does not pay you on-time... as you can't really not pay the nanny.

Thanks blondes, ebb and nick

I'm in Herts - AL1 and Tinies send me daly updates about available jobs. Yours would probably offer £75 - £80 a day NET.

I know a few nannies from the school pick up and most of them get around £350 - £400 a week net, some have just the school aged child, and have had the child since a baby, so parents want to keep the continuity, some have siblings too.

They have use of the car, gym membership, but thats about all for extras.

This link will give you ideas of what nanny jobs are on Tinies books

she will be newly qualified and a possibly slightly cheaper option. I'm afraid to say the latter is a consideration for me on quite a low salary myself

hobgoblin - nothing wrong with this

my 1st employers choose me as I was striaght out from college/newly qualified, and they couldnt afford to pay a more qualified nanny more

when i left 2years later as they moved 2hrs away, they then did the same thing, and again when their 3 and 4th nanny left

if it wasnt for my lovely 1st family giving me that chance ( had sc charge of 4mth and 5yr 55hrs a week) then i doubt if i would be where i am today

i still keep in contact with them, my 4mth will be 18 this year and my 5yr is just leaving nui

sorry i regress, anyway if you know, like and trust this girl then have a chat with her

sure she will be thrilled to have a job waiting for her when she finishes college

For a newly qualified I would have thought you offer no more than £7 per hour as you are in a strong negotiating position and she will be keen to get on the first rung of the ladder. As you know her already you are comfortable her as with a newly qualified childcare worker but others might not be so she won't necessarily have her pick of jobs. Her other choices may be nursery jobs and I dare say that a nursery in Herts will pay less than £7 ph for a newly qualified first jobber so your salary offer will look attractive.