Nanny voluntary Ofsted registration...who pays the £100???

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Title says it all.

I only registered on the voluntary register so parents could get childcare vouchers. Its costing summat like £103.

Mother has only agreed to go halves on it...

Says as I am part-time (4 full days) I could use it for another family...what on my 1 day off...which I don't work???

Feel hard done by.

Advice?

You as the nanny pay the fee. You can then negotiate with parents with regard to if they will pay all of it, or someone of it.

As registration is currently voluntary, as a nanny you don't have to be registered - thus the scheme benefits the parents more than us as nannies. However I expect that over the next few years that will change, as nannies will find it hard to get jobs if they are not registered, so we will need to be paying these fees ourselves.

For 2010 we could have ISA, CRB and Ofsted fees to pay... I hope that won't be the case but the ISA are not yet being that clear about what is happening regarding how many different fees will be payable. Would be nice if it was all done via one government agency... so for example paying ISA but getting a CRB check and Ofsted registration. Think the chances are it will be two fees, ISA (with CRB check included) and Ofsted registration - but who knows. Perhaps that's something the PR person working for the ISA could take a look at - see what information could be made available to childcare workers regarding the various fees.

I was in the process of this with a family (before the job fell through due to mum being made redundant) and they were paying the lot. I paid to renew my first aid course and once i had worked with them for 3 months i got that money back from them. The only thing that cost me was my nanny insurance.

My job was only 3 days a week.

All the agencies Im with say its up to the parents to pay as It them that want it and them that will benefit from it.

Maybe ring a few agencies in your area for advice.

I would feel hard done by too in your shoes - if it only benefits the parents then why should you pay the fee?

Why is it so much incidentally - my registration only cost £20 with Ofsted.....??

I think that you should pay anything you need to in order to register - such as first aid, insurance, CRB - but the family should pay the registration.

Ofsted fees have always been quite high for home childcarers. Ofsted were trying to increase all the fees, not sure they managed to get the fee increase they wanted. Ofsted Fees - I suspect that DCSF are doing some funding of the fees for Childminders, as they already subsidise the CRB check fees for Childminders.

We pay for our nanny, for the reasons outlined above. I think that it is outrageous to expect nannies to pay the fee when registration is entirely for the parents' financial benefit.

A further dimension for me is that, as a teacher, my registration for the GTC is subsidised by the government (so only £30) whereas nannies, who are paid far less than teachers, are expected to cough up a far greater proportion of their wage for professional registration.

Incidentally, I think that professional registration can only be meaningful if it applies to EVERYONE - a voluntary register that is barely publicised is a fairly meaningless concept.

I also pay for my nanny's training courses, i.e. First Aid, on the basis that as I expect my employer to pay for my CPD, I can hardly then apply a different standard to my lovely nanny.

i personally think parents should pay as there is no benifit to the nanny

if your mum is being picky then suggest dividing it pro rota, ie she pays 4 days, and you pay for the other ( though still think thats unfair) so she pays £80 and you £20

No absolute rights or wrongs, it's a negotiation thing.

I think you're justified in feeling hard done by if the parents insisted you got it done (and especially if they let you think they'd pay), but not if you chose to do it yourself, or they said they'd like you to be registered but didn't insist.

The lesson (for any other nanny reading this) is to discuss who pays for it upfront.

I think it depends on whether you initiated the registration before or after you worked for these people. If I had an existing nanny whom I then approached and required her to go get registered, I would expect to pay for it. If you came to an interview and I informed you that the registration was required in order to get the job, then I would expect you to take care of it before you started.

Lots of jobs require the employee to have level of certification which the employee is expected to obtain themselves, such as an engineer.

This does sound like a case of miscommunication and has offered to meet you half way. So, I don't think she's being unreasonable.

Thanks for your advice and support. Will be going back to the parents and asking for at least £80.

Just another nail in the coffin making me feel un-appreciated in the work I do for their family.