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advice re ofsted, inpections and moving house

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london11 · 09/01/2009 13:22

Looking for advice for a childminder friend and collegue.
She has just had a call from Ofsted - inspector wants to come and see new house (exactly the same layout as old house, a few doors up on army camp) and do first post reg inspection at the same time......on Monday, the day she moves!
She is expecting packers at 9am monday morning and inspector wants to see new house set up for minding at 11am.
Am I wrong to think this is ridiculous? She explained that she is only moving on Monday (as was also explained in letter she sent to Ofsted with new address etc) but inspector is insistant that she comes monday or friend cannot mind children in the new house.
I dont know what to tell her apart from to unpack and set up what she can and explain to inspector the rest however she is worried as inspector said on the phone she would have to see childminding areas set up for work as she couldn't just take her word for it that she would put up certificate/posters/safety gates etc!!
Just seems like typical Ofsted madness......anyone had anything similar happen and can advise?

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HSMM · 09/01/2009 13:49

If they insist on coming, she should not knock herself out. She should just be prepared to explain what she is planning to do. It is completely unrealistic of them to expect her to be unpacked, cleaned and ready by 11:00

nbee84 · 09/01/2009 14:43

Is she wanting to work on Tuesday? If so, then Ofsted are right to insist on coming on Monday but obviously nobody at Ofsted has the sense to make a 4-5pm appointment. Typical!

All your friend can do is ring again and plead for an afternoon appointment.

mumlove · 09/01/2009 16:04

All she has to do is her risk accessments for the new house and then have everything in place for when the mindees arrive.

How is shoshe's move going? Please say a big hello to her.

mumlove · 09/01/2009 16:09

Forgot to say that they don't normally do an inspection without mindees present.

nbee84 · 09/01/2009 17:54

mumlove I think it's different for an inspection on a new setting (house move). They are inspecting the setting not the childminders care of the children. When I moved house 4 years ago I had to have the new house inspected before I could chilmind in it - so was inspected with no children present.

mumlove · 09/01/2009 18:25

A few cm's in my local group have moved in the last couple of years and they only had to do the risk accessments and then the inspector came out to check things the following week.
Different things being told by ofsted again!!

london11 · 09/01/2009 18:42

I was under the impression that a risk assessment would do the job especially as houses are same layout etc but I think maybe because she hasn't yet had her first inspection they decided its a good idea to come out.
However, I dont see how they can properly grade inspection in a part moved into house with no mindees present?
Of course all my calls to surestart co-ordinator etc today where pointless as apparently no one works on a friday and we are not allowed to have problems or queries on a friday!!
I think she is going to have to just go with it - the worst the inspector can do is say she cant work til actions are carried out and AFAIK no mindees are due in for a few days.
Shoshe all moved with no major problems I believe xx

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thebumcleaner · 09/01/2009 21:52

Sounds really stupid! When I moved (also Army quarters) I wrote to Ofsted and drew them a plan of the new house (which was across the road, but a bigger, different layout). I did a risk assessment for the house, and they have not been to see it until just before Christmas when my Ofsted inspection was (2 months overdue) and 18 months after we moved!

I can't see how they can expect anything more than seeing a house full of boxes, and if she is not minding yet, I cannot see how they can do the inspection as they look and observe you with children. If she phoned up Ofsted and spoke to a member of the inspection team I am sure that they will also see that they cannot inspect then as well.

LOONEYsingingachristmasTUNEy · 10/01/2009 17:38

Not read all of this but I had the same problem (well sort of) with Ofsted being stupid when I was planning on moving and after help on here, they finally agreed that risk assessment was fine. I've been here over 2 yrs and have not been inspected! I'm happy to email what I sent to them if I can find it and you think it would help? Basically I did as mumlove said and it was fine. The stupid thing was is Ofsted's own website showed one procedure and they were saying something totally different. If what your friend has been told is from someone on the helpline number, don't take their word for it, they ALWAYS seem to get things wrong (well, ime they do!!)

LOONEYsingingachristmasTUNEy · 10/01/2009 17:39

p.s. when I moved, it was to a different village and a TOTALLY different layout of house!!

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