Nanny questions - please help!

[roomforthree]

I will be starting university this year, and I am hoping employ a full-time (38 hours) live-out nanny to care for my three DC who will be 7, 2 and 1.

So my questions are:

1. What would be a reasonable gross wage/salary (I am in Wales)?

1. Approximately, how much will employers' NIC be on top of this figure?

1. Would it be acceptable to negotiate a lower wage / salary throughout the year but reduce the working hours during holidays, say to 10 hours or fewer per week, whilst paying the same?

1. To be eligible for a childcare grant, the childcare provider has to be registered. With what organization is the registration with? And do nannies commonly have this registration?

1. What duties will a nanny usually undertake?

Any answers will be much appreciated.
Thanks

Have a look at nannyjob.co.uk for salary and NICs figures

Hard to know about salary, as I'm not in Wales and I expect things could be quite different in South Wales compared with North Wales.
Try researching the local nanny market in your area by looking at job listings on NannyJob and nanny agency websites. That will then give you at least an idea.
Very ball park - anywhere between £11,000 and £22,000 Gross per year. Minimum would be National Minimum Wage (which will vary depending on the age of the worker) though I expect around £11,000 Gross per year.

E-Gismos Calculator for PAYE will give you a good indication of likely Employers NI figure.
On a salary of £11,000 it's roughly £700. With £22,000 salary, it's roughly £2100.

What you can negotiate in terms of wage will vary depending on the candidate. You may find that you can find someone who only wants to work Term Time, if that suits you.

No idea about the Registration system in Wales. Childminders can register with someone - CSIW - but I don't know about nannies.

Duties will vary... generally it is things to do with the children, so cooking for the children, children's washing & putting away clothes. Taking children to/from school, activities, toddler group, etc. You will find quite a bit of discussion on this board if you look through old threads with regard to duties nannies do and also other interesting topics, such as typical weekly kitty money, info about operating PAYE, drawing up a nanny contract, problems that occur etc.

Best thing is to call nannytax, alot of nannies are paid by nannytax, it is a company that sort out the parents tax and NI, holiday, maternity pay rules etc they also have a list of current wages.
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nanny needs to be ofsted registered so you can pay her with vouchers, cost about £150 a year i think. Alot of nannies have it but the process is a pain as it has to be done yearly.

nannyzim - they can't be Ofsted Registered... this is WALES, not England.
Childcare legislation and various other bits of legislation are different in Wales.

roomforthree - noticed on point 4 you said "childcare grant". What grant? Do you mean childcare vouchers, or something different?

Found something helpful: Childcare Approval Scheme Wales
Nannies can register under that scheme and you can then use the Childcare Grant you get as a student to pay them.

you can expect a nanny to do anything associated with children

normal duties include laundering their clothes and bedlinen etc (washing & ironing if needed)

Feeding the children nutrritouse food, meal planning / cooking / and cleaning the kitchen etc afterwards (it is also normal for nannies to eat with the children what they are eating, definitley lunch, and some nannies (like me) eat my dinner with the children too.

• the normal playing with and entertaining the children...

doing school runs / taking to swimming lessons (or swimming for fun!) / toddler groups / library / park / farm / walks etc
Most nannies like the odd special day out (zoo etc)
It is normal to pay for all entry and ice creams / tea coffee etc the nanny (& children) have during these days out
I have lots of nanny friends who i meet with regualrly for playdates etc and lunches (we take turn to meet at each others work houses!)

No idea about wages in wales but you must make sure you agree a GROSS wage with your nanny

im pretty sure some nannies may agree to a slightly lower rate in exchange for less hours in the holidyas BUT 38 hours is quite a short working week for a nanny, so your pay is already likeluy to be a bot less than a typical nanny job... however im sure there would be someone out there willing to do it....

maybe a nanny with their own child? who again would probably agree to a slightly lower wage
I am registered with ofstead and i know most of my nanny friends are registered with ofstead too

I am a Nanny in south wales, and I earn £7 per hour, nett

whereabouts are you ?

Thanks everyone for the replies and links. Lots more things to think about! Will def. check out nannytax and nannyjob.

nannynick - I will be a full-time student, and will hopefully be entitled to 85% of my childcare costs. The childcare grant is administered by the LEA, and the nanny must be registered for me to receive the grant.

Does £300 gross per week seem reasonable for the hours, bearing in mind that I would continue to pay the same during holidays, but for reduced hours?

RachieB - I am in South Wales too. In your opinion, would this post appeal to you / your colleagues?

Thanks again.

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Try posting for a nanny in netmums childcare section. I live in Wales and anywhere between 6-7 pounds net is reasonable. The child care vouchers is through child care approval scheme in Wales and if the nanny is not registered it takes usually 3-4 months to do it. Gumtree is another option as well. I understand it is one of the most difficult decision to take5 and wish you good luck.
Whatever you do try and clarify all the queries and make sure that everything is in writing.