Nanny Recruitment - advice needed

[nkweto]

I have asked a couple of questions already, however, I have another one!

We are hoping to share a nanny, in West London starting June 09. We have neither a nanny nor a share family and was wondering if we can look for both concurrently. We are thinking of putting the following advert on nannysharer and nannyjob... is it missing anything obvious ? Does it matter that we do not know what the set up with the share family will be be ?

Any comments would be gratefully received.

"Full Time (50 hour week) required by friendly family for Nanny Share arrangement. Share arrangements with the second family may be on a part time basis only. Full time family will have a two year old and baby under 6 months old. Second family will have a maximum of two children. Drivers licence is not required. Competitive salary.

Preferred Hours:
8 am ? 6 pm

Duties to include:
? Preparing breakfast, lunch and tea for the children
? Structured play activities with children at home
? Arranging play dates, toddler group outings and trips to the park
? General child related tidying up and clearing up (weekly cleaner/parents do domestic cleaning)
? Maintaining a record of childrens? activities/accident reports/illness reports etc

Candidate requirements include:
? Childcare qualifications (please specify)
? Valid paediatric first-aid certificate
? Nanny must have public liability insurance
? Valid CRB check
? Willing to be Ofsted registered
? EU residency or valid work visa
"

Can you afford the nanny if a share family cannot be found?
What is Competitive Salary? Why not work out how much you could afford to pay and offer that - as a nanny, I personally don't apply for jobs where the pay isn't stated in the advert.

Drivers licence is not required.
How do you know that? The other family involved in the share may need the nanny to drive, may want children taking/collecting from school, may want the nanny to take children to particular activities.

Do you need the nanny to be Ofsted Registered?
If so, then state that, rather than saying Willing to be Ofsted Registered. The registration process could take some time to go through.

Is it Live-In or Live-Out? I suggest clearly stating that and also state your location as detailed as possible (as you are in in London... if you don't mind the nanny getting to you via Tube, then state nearest Tube Station).

June is a little way off yet, so not sure how much response you would get to the advert at present. May be worth concentrating on finding the share family initially... then come Late Feb recruit for the nanny.

Just my view of course. I'm sure others will post their views, to help give you more of a balanced overall view.

Thanks Nannynick very useful. I guess June feels very close to me, but may not be if when looking for a job!

We cannot afford a nannyshare without some sort of share arrangement, and my (possibly incorrect) assumption is that we would pay more for a full time share than for a part time share.

For example - we are looking at a (Net)
£350-550 range. We can afford up to £550 with a full time share and about £350 - 400 with a part time share. Would be very interested to hear if this assumption is correct.

Will keep Drivers Licence out, until we find a family.

We need Ofsted Registered to use our childvouchers, so agree we need to state that. Having said that, if we found the right person, would be prepared to pay for Ofsted registration and would back date the vouchers (as we did with the nursery).

Would add tube stations (as they could use, High Street Kensington, Olympia, Shepherds Bush etc).

Will get some adverts up for nanny share families !

Many Thanks.

I don't understand your salary calculations. Only deal in Gross wage (not Net - especially if you won't be the sole employer).
I haven't done any nanny shares, so don't know how much it costs - but I would imagine that it can vary quite a bit depending on the nature of the share. For example, if only one house is used, then the owner of that house is incurring all the heat/light/wear-n-tear and possibly food costs.

Actually Gross works better for us too, as we have been trying to calculate the Net from Gross figures. It just appeared that everyone was discussing salaries in Net when we looked up other adverts.

1. Our approximate salary calculations are:

: Annual 25K (monthly £2,084) - Annual 35K (monthly £2,960).

Do these sound like reasonable calculations ?

1. We would be happy to take on the heat/light costs if the other family wanted us to be the primary house.

1. I would like to do a joint budget between families to buy children's food for the week.

Many Thanks

Figures above are in Gross.

Hard to know what is reasonable salary for a share. But based on your area, around £30k Gross for a full-time live-out nanny would seem about right London NannyJob Listings TheNannySharers seems to be listing some people with share opportunities. So seems like you are in an area where you may find a share.

As a non-Londoner, I feel your location is Central London, rather than West London, as looks like you may be near the Museums/Olympia. West London I consider to be further out, such as Richmond, Wimbledon, Wembly. Just my non-Londoner's view of course, but I thought I'd mention it.

That's great. Sounds like we are roughly in the right price range. We are relatively new to London, so yes you may be right, we may be Central rather West London.. will bear that in mind with adverts as well.

Think we will look for a family first, as that will give us all the information we need for a comprehensive job advert. We will also know where we stand re. the feasibility of a full time share.

Thanks so much for the help and looking up information etc.

I used to live just off High St kensington and always considered the location West london. I would try to get a full time share as cant imagine a nanny being able to live in London earning £350 a week seems a bit low for live out. Hope you find someone there seem to be loads of nannies about.

Thanks Nannyj, I agree I think £350 would be pushing it...if we can get a full time family share, we would be able to offer a more competative salary..