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I know its been done to death but nanny salary - how do I know what is market rate?

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hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 18:27

am currently looking for early next year and have been given a range of between £9 -£11 per hour net for live out in SW London - the thing I'm strugglng with is how do I tell/know which end of scale a potential nanny would be. Don't mind paying market but need to understand bit about what you'd be looking for in terms of experience/qualification if you're more at £11 end of the scale than £9.

The main reason for my confusion is have seen 2 cvs that look damn near same in terms of experience/qualications but one asking £11 and one asking £9.50 per hour...

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nbee84 · 03/12/2008 19:17

Going by your example above I would say that one Nanny is quite happy to be earning £9.50 an hour - it may be the same/more than she is earning in her current job and she doesn't want to out price herself.

The other may have been earning the higher rate (or near to it) and feels that this is her worth.

That's not to say that the other nanny is not worth that, some nannies feel that they have to be earning the top end salaries with their qualifications/experience and others just think what figure that they would be happy with earning.

Hope that makes sense and is not total gobbledegook

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 20:40

interview them both and see what your gut says

i ask and get the top rate for my area, yet some of my friends with same quals and exp get less - but would like more

i am a fab nanny (modest) and though i am exp, i am worth it

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 20:44

nbee that makes good sense - tbh I think she may be lucky to get that rate (she is leaving present employment due to fact one of parents lost her job)... but as it is she called agency to seay she is not keen pursuing it as wants job asap. I'm a bit pissed off with the agency tbh given 2 out of 3 cvs they sent to me have been subsequnetly withdrawn for reasons that I think they should have flushed out before sending them to me (like the timing issue here).

lol at blondes (was hoping you'd answer as you seem to know what you're talking about) - I've not got a problem paying that rate for rigth candidate deserves it.. Just I feel a bit of a novice in this area.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 21:12

ROFL @ know what i am talking about - though tis true

agencys can be crap, though some are fab - seems that yours needs to do some basic groundwork before sending out cv's

have you tried advertising on www.nannyjob.co.uk or www.gumtree.com or www.netmums.co.uk yourself?

what age chldren do you have - and what exp/quals do you want from a nanny

i know of a nanny who is looking in london, though not sure where she is compared to you

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 21:15

my dd is 5 months - need to be sole charge experienced and ofsted registered - I'm in twickenham.

and agree re the agency - it was really fundamental things (like it was perfectly obvious someone who needed work asap wouldnt want to start in a couple of months). I guess i would be wary re looking for work via an agency so can see how you'd prefer not to get tehm involved if you were a nanny on the look out.

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hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 21:16

thinking about it -agency may be desperate to place anyone to get their fee... so may be getting a particularly any old dog service

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 21:28

average agencies my area charge 3/3.5 nett salary - so if paying £100 a day as i charge then thats £1500+

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 21:31

yes this one is sinmilar rates blondes.. its not exactly rolls royce service hence I'm wondering what I am really getting here.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 21:35

i would seriously look at the sites i gave you

i know this is pot, kettle, black - but all of my jobs have been through agencies APART from my curernt one, and this was through gumtree, we both placed ads, and replied to each others

mb saw lots of people through her ad, but only liked me, she did say that if she hadnt met me through the ad, she would have gone through local agenciesand then found me

i tell her to be grateful i saved her £1500+

guess nannies like going through agncies as if something goes wrong, they are meant to back you up - though friends have found out this is total crap!!

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 21:37

good plan -blondes - as I am not in market til someone until march prob should put ad on in jan..

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 21:44

might be worth advertising now if not then yes 2nd jan start advertising/looking

i have 2mths notice in my contract, and if you need someone to start in march .......

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 21:46

fair point.. will go and have a sneaky peek to get some inspiration for wording now (I've lost interest in I'm a celeb for today)

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 21:52

im keeping a beedy eye on it, but its also on sky+ so can rewind any good bits

good luck with your advert

one ickle baby sounds lovely - makes my job seem manic - 5mth baby, 3 and 5yr and mad 6mth puppy

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 21:54

david van day's dance has mentally damaged me...

that sounds like one full house - am full of admiration for getting the puppy with the baby (that said dd would probably like to lick a puppy given half the chance)

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 22:00

all manic but good fun

puppy was talked about over a year ago,and would i mind -and then mb said she wanted no 3

mummy dog had a phantom preg, or puppy would have come in april - so be nearly a year now

alas baby came in june and puppy in sept

i love all 3 of my charges dearly, and also love the furry one as well

and yes what the hell was that dance!!!!

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 22:03

that does sound really lovely.. hoping dd won't be only child .

I cannot believe people voting for david van day

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 22:04

get pratcicng

and yes to dvd, gh and i dont ring and voye, but someone is .....

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 22:05

I will do - its such a waste of a text vote but clearly some misguided idiots are voting

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 22:09

could you imagine if he won!!!

now get to the sites i gave you, look at cvs and then do your own ad

hollyivypoppy34 · 03/12/2008 22:13

ok will do -thanks for the help!

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Blondeshavemorefun · 03/12/2008 22:14

welcome anytime

bye xx

nannynick · 03/12/2008 23:48

It's late and I've only just got home, so apologies for not reading the entire thread.
I feel that £9-11 net is a bit on the high side given you aren't talking central London location. £9-11 Gross I could see as being realistic. Anyone else have thoughts on that?
As you have some time yet, I'd suggest that you keep an eye on job listings so that you are able to get a better feel for what the local market is. Sites like NannyJob, GreatCare and Gumtree are worth looking at, plus nanny agency sites.

Given the age of your DD, I feel you want someone with prior experience of caring for babies, plus that they are Ofsted registered. I also expect that you will want someone local to you. If two CV's are so similar that both are possibilities, you interview them both and see who you and DD gel with.

I feel it's an Employers market at the moment, so if you like a candidate who wants more pay, you can tell them that you are offering £xx,xxx Gross per year and see if they will accept that, or want to negotiate it.

hollyivypoppy34 · 04/12/2008 09:30

thanks nick -that is really helpful (and esp thanks for posting so late) - dh will be delighted as confirms his view that its an employers market...

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MGMidget · 04/12/2008 11:17

From my experience of interviewing for a nanny I would say that those with the highest salary expectations aren't necessarily the best in terms of qualifications/experience or references.Personally I think £11 net is quite high. I agree with nannynick that £9-11 gross is probably realistic especially in a credit crunch/recession! Nanny agencies will probably guide you to offer a high rate - it is in their interests after all as their commission is based on what you are paying! If you advertise on gumtree for a job looking after one 5 month old baby I bet you'll get lots of applicants. I'd ask them what they are currently earning and then gauge any salary offer on this with a bit of an increase. (check their salary when getting a reference to make sure they have been honest with you!)

Mtorun · 04/12/2008 13:49

Agree with others its an Employer`s market at the moment. But £9-10 net quite usual for SW London for an experienced nanny.

I would respond to your ad. but unfortunately, I prefer to work in pet free enviroment.