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has my cm broken her contract?

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linzij30 · 26/11/2008 16:55

my cm looks after all 4 of my children on thursday and fridays after schhol and on a saturday. I went to collect my kids on a friday about 3 weeks ago .She open the door and told me that she wasent having my daughter anymore so i had to find alternative care for her on saturday but she still charged me for my daughter plus dinner. Plus she put up her fees for the holidays 7 days before. Can anyone help me please. It states on the contract at least 4 weeks notice for any of this

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dustystar · 26/11/2008 16:57

Did she give a reason? Either way if it says 4 weeks on her contract then she has to give 4 weeks notice.

linzij30 · 26/11/2008 16:58

my daughter had behaved badly

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dustystar · 26/11/2008 17:01

Had she discussed your dds behaviour with you before this and tried to work with you to improve it?

linzij30 · 26/11/2008 17:02

there had been 1 incident before that but nothing major ot just came out of the blue

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MadameCastafiore · 26/11/2008 17:08

I would find a new childminder.

dustystar · 26/11/2008 17:10

Then I think she has been unprofessional there as well. Its part of our jobs to manage difficult behaviour and she should have approached you and spoken to you about this and tried to come up with a plan to deal with the unacceptable behaviour. If your dd was making things really difficult and the CM had tried numerous strategies to no avail then it would be fair enough to give notice but to just stop means she is breaking the contract.

babylovesmilk · 26/11/2008 17:58

On the NCMA contract there is a get out clause, something about behaviour and basically CM can get out of notice if mindee's behaviour is severe enough. I think it is true that CM should try and help with behavioral problems but they have to draw the line.Sorry your having problems.

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/11/2008 18:24

what did your daughter do linzij30?

must have been extreme if your cm doesnt want her anymore

seems cheeky to not want her but still charge

dizzydixies · 26/11/2008 18:26

I don't think I'd want this woman to have my kids if she's that fickle

is there someone else you could consider?

linzij30 · 26/11/2008 18:31

ye i have given her 4 weeks notice but i wanted to know if i should hsve paid her as she refused to have my daughter on the saturday

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dizzydixies · 26/11/2008 18:32

I don't know the legalities but sounds like a breach of contract - are you likely to get the money back even if you complain?

linzij30 · 26/11/2008 18:35

when i went to pick my kids up from cm and her mom and her friend were at her house in total there were 6 kids and 3 adults in the living room and she wanted them to watch a dvd my daughter refused and threw a tantrum saying that she hated her my daughters 8

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linzij30 · 26/11/2008 18:37

well ben as its my last week i was going to deduct the 37 pounds from it

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PinkChick · 27/11/2008 09:43

??odd one, but if she has point blank refused to care for your dd without giving any notice, then i OWULD NOT be apying her, nor would i pay her FULL for the other children as SHE has put you in a compromising position making you need to find CC for 4 children..thats not easy and as she hadnt discussed a plan for behaviour, plus she shouldnt be MAKING the children do things, they should get options, if she was stressed by house full thats HER problem!
i would speak/write to her stating your stance and explain to her just how unproffesional and contrary to her contract this situation is.good luck

Illhavethisinsize12 · 27/11/2008 12:00

she was meant to be working not entertaining family and friends. i wouldnt give her a single penny and remove your children. just because she wants to sit and chat how dare she just expect children to sit and watch a dvd.

littlelyn · 27/11/2008 12:19

This cm sounds unprofessional and lazy. Your daughter's behaviour was typical for her age - she should have been given a choice of activities. I wouldn't pay her a penny - she's broken the contract, not you. I would also report her to your Local Authority as it is instances like this that give cm's a bad name.

PeaceNLove · 27/11/2008 12:25

Hi there.

Firstly are your other 3 children still there? My attitude as a parent would be, if your able to drop 1 of 4 children at such short notice, as a parent its not practical for you to leave your other 3 in her care.

secondly if she refused to care fro your daughter on a particular day than DO NOT PAY HER.

If all your daughter did was throw a tantrum (and nothing was damaged and know-one was hurt) than this is not significant enough for a childminder to end contract immediatly.

If anything, write her a letter, the more reasonable it sounds and the calmer you come across the better in your favour if she tries anything at a later date.

Explain that as your daughter was refused care you will not be paying for X date and that you are extremly dissapointed that she can no onger look after your daughter.
Ask her to put exactly what your daughter had done in writing.
Maybe even add that you would like to be able to resolve this between you rather than getting any (3rd parties) involved.

Good luck, not a nice situation to be in.

MascaraOHara · 27/11/2008 12:28

she can't ofsted registered surely?? I wouldn't use her or pay her and I would report her to ofsted/NCMA (or whatever it's called) god I love my CM

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2008 13:17

if all your daughter did was have a paddy, then the cm needs to grow up

children do have temper tantrums - as can adults

sounds to me as if the cm has no control or knowlegde how to comfort/distract a child of out having a strop

you are better out of there - hope you find a new cm soon, though might be hard if you have 4 children - what ages are they?

would you be better off getting an after school nanny - might be cheaper?

chloemegjess · 27/11/2008 13:24

Sorry but your CM sounds very unreasonable if that is all that there is to it. Fine if she said she is giving you your 4 weeks notice but she is dropping you in it on Saturday.

I would find a new CM for all of your children ASAP.

linzij30 · 28/11/2008 09:33

thanks for all your messages thats what i thought but at the time i was so embarresed as she did this in front of everyone. But when i got home the more i thought about it the more angrier i got. I mean i appreciate that as a cm you can but up with naughty children but she still hasent explained what happened properly that day. And if she would have had my dd the next day there would not have been a problem but she really dropped me in it.

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