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Can a foreign national be OFSTED registered?

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Parapluie · 25/11/2008 22:33

Hello - does anyone know if a foreign national working as a nanny can be OFSTED registered, CRB checked etc?

Thanks

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magicofchristmas · 25/11/2008 22:47

Yes. A friend of mine is from Hungary and she is with OFSTED. Much to my annoyance her registration only took 4wks.
Mine took 17wks

Parapluie · 26/11/2008 01:14

Thanks - I guess I should have said non-EU nationals. Does anyone know? I don't want to interview nannies unnecessarily.

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nannynick · 26/11/2008 07:14

As an employer you need to make sure that they are legally permitted to work in this country. The immigration rules have been changed, so many non-EU's will be unable to come to the UK to work.
As long as they have the correct immigration paperwork (so likely Tier 5 visa) and they meet the Ofsted requirements for the nanny register - see my guide to the Nanny Register here - then getting them Ofsted registered should be possible.

Personally though, if it is essential that your nanny is Ofsted registered - aim to get someone who already is registered, far easier. Also you don't really want to be the person who tests out the new immigration system... do you? UK unemployment levels on the rise, so why not hire British.

BlueGreen · 26/11/2008 13:08

Parapluie, yes they can register with Ofsted. It`s no different then registering British or EU nationals.

Nannynick, are you suggestion people on here to be racist and choose "British" nannies only? What is the difference other then them being British? What about non- British employers do you suggest them to find their nanny same country as they are from? ( sounds ridiculous!)

And I don't think people should choose their nanny(or other employers) only because of their nationality(this is racism!). Its tough life out there and if you want to find work you have to be the best and be affordable!

Complaining/blaming that you cant find a job because of other nationalities is rubbish to me to be honest.

Be competitive and do your best! And pls dont advice people to find British nannies only! As you may offend non- British nannies.

KatyMac · 26/11/2008 13:20

BlueGreen - Nick is working (has a very good job) so I don't think he meant anything intrinsically negative.

BlueGreen · 26/11/2008 13:46

KatyMac, I wasnt referring nannynick only when i said " Be competitive and do your best!". It was meant for everyone who thinks that people should employ British nannies only!
Basically, not to be racist.

frannikin · 27/11/2008 08:27

You could read nick's post as "UK unemployment levels are on the rise" therefore there are more nannies already in Brtain available. I wouldn't have automatically assumed that nick was referring to nannies who have British nationality, I read it as nannies who were already in Britain and OFSTED registered, following on from his previous comment about it being easier to get someone who is already registered (and therefore in Britain).

BlueGreen - I wonder what you would think of my employers, and many others abroad, who specifically request a British nanny. It can't be because we're EMT as Americans and Australians are not held in such high regard by employers. Employers here are usually of a different nationality to their nanny, are they be racist against their own country for having a British nanny? I personally don't know what the difference is about being British but it would appear that there is one.

BlueGreen · 27/11/2008 13:56

frannikin, I`m sure nannynick knows the difference beetween "British " and "Britain" if he meant to say what you thought he would have said " why not hire nannies who are already in Britan" rather then "why not hire British." ?

And for the employers from a different nationality wanting to employ nanny is purely because of their(nanny`s) language( English) not because they think British nannies particulary good at nannying.

frannikin · 27/11/2008 20:32

Not wishing to get into an argument but I did point out in my original post that it's NOT for the language reason as Americans and Australians are not as highly sought after. And I doubt it's an accent thing either as one of my nanny friends hails from Liverpool and it shows (not that I have anything against Liverpudlian accents). Her charges have acquired some of her accent from her and, although I don't know for sure, I suspect even an American or Australian accent is preferable to broad Scouse*

To me hiring British means hiring within the borders of Britain, not necessarily British nationals. Like buying British - I could buy brie which is produced in Britain but it's still a French cheese!

*Please note for the sake of clarity this comment is intended in a humourous manner and not to cast aspersions on anyone with any form of regional or national accent

BlueGreen · 27/11/2008 22:26

Me neither frannikin. "I did point out in my original post that it's NOT for the language reason as Americans and Australians are not as highly sought after. " So may i ask why people prefering British nannies(according to you of course)? And to be honest i heard different story as the families prefer to have SA/Kiwi nanies as they have a " can do/ muck in attitue" And of course this is nothing to do with the topic we are talking about.

I`m a non native English speaker and when i move back to my country if i need i will employe English speaking nanny for my kids for them to learn the language. So it will be purely for the language not cause they are British. And probably, your employer empoyed you for that reason why dont you ask them As i know many nannies working abroad are employed for their language not cause they are British in fact some of them from Scotland with a heavy accent and others from US ans SA/Kiwi of course and they know this.

Anyway, I still think that what nannynick had said was offensive.

frannikin · 28/11/2008 08:34

I honestly don't know why overseas employers prefer British nannies. As I'm not an employer I'm probably not the best person to ask but I do know that my employers were specifically looking for a British nanny - they refused to consider CVs the agency sent them unless the candidate was British - and many other parents at school have asked me whether I know of any British nannies looking to work here. I may well ask my employers why they specified a British nanny, although it will probably be something as prosaic as immigration reasons! Equally it may be to do with qualifications/training, the fact that it takes us less time to get home for holidays or just the whole tradition thing....

I have also heard, certainly in London, that antipodeans are very popular. Having had an Aussie nanny myself as a child I can definitely say she had a can-do attitude, but so did at least one of the two British nannies I had, and the other I was too young to remember, so I think cultural stereotyping really doesn't pay off. It's far more to do with personality than a particular culture.

BlueGreen · 28/11/2008 12:40

"It's far more to do with personality than a particular culture. "

Very well said! Thank you. And I rest my case

MGMidget · 01/12/2008 23:51

In defence of nannynick, I think her/his answer included some very helpful practical information, including what sort of immigration work visa an overseas visitor would need to be able to work in the UK. I think Bluegreen is being a little sensitive to the reference to British!

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