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Paid childcare

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Satutory sick pay

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naughtymummy · 10/11/2008 09:50

Anyone got any exprience of how to sort this out ? My nanny did lots of paid overtime (which i gave her the option of not doing) last week. This week she is just doing her normal 3 day week and she has called in sick. I have previously paid her in full for sick days but I do feel she is taking the p* this time so have decided to only give her SSP anyone have any idea how to go about this in terms of payslips etc.Any advice much appreciated

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smellofrain · 10/11/2008 09:54

why do you think she is taking the p*?

Do you use a nanny tax company, or sort out her tax/payslips yourself?

nannyL · 10/11/2008 10:01

isnt SSP no pay at all for the first 3 (or 5?) days then something rediculouse like £64ish a week?

Not sure what her over time has got to do with her being sick tbh

Roskva · 10/11/2008 10:04

SSP is payable after 3 qualifying days, ie 3 consecutive working days (which can be interrupted by, by doesn't include, scheduled non-working days, ie if a person doesn't work weekends, qualifying days could be Fri, Mon and Tues). The illness can be self-certified for absences of 7 days or less and needs a medical certificate for absences of more than 7 days.

this might help.

annh · 10/11/2008 10:06

Like NannyL, not sure what the overtime has to do with the SSP question - unless you are saying that doing too much overtime has made her ill- which is still irrelevant to paying her this week. Presumably, if you are going to pay her SSP this time, that is what her contract specifies and you have been making it up in the past voluntarily?

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naughtymummy · 10/11/2008 10:45

Yes that is what is in contract. Previously have made it up. I asked her before taking on the extra work if she was happy to do the extra days, if she would be able to cope and she said fine. I feel that she kept going last week because of the overtime. She didn't say what the matter just that she was sick and going back to bed.

My sister is around this morning and she knew that so i suspect she felt that it didn't really matter if she came in today IYSWIM .Her exact words were you will have to cope without me. It is going to cost us about £60 for my sister to have the children today (she does'nt drive so taxi's etc.).By the time she contacted me I was already on my way to work.

Thanks for the link will look into it

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annh · 10/11/2008 10:59

Because you have incurred extra expense, I would definitely only pay SSP. Not because of last week, because her illness may or may not be related to the overtime, and I think deciding how much to pay someone based on whether you, as their employer, feel they are genuinely sick puts you on a slippery slope to ruin!

My ex-nannies were rarely ill so although their contracts said SSP I always made the money up because I was able to arrange alternative childcare through MIL, working from home, annual leave etc. However, if I had incurred the costs of a temporary nanny, I simply would not have been able to afford anything more than SSP and you are perfectly within your rights to advise nanny of this.

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naughtymummy · 10/11/2008 12:50

Hmm have had a look. I think SSP means no money for 3 days is that right ? Seems a bit tough however is costing us money that she is not in today. I think the overtime issue is that if she takes on extra work by choice she ca'nt then get the time back by calling in sick and still get the extra money.

What do others think ?

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Blondeshavemorefun · 10/11/2008 13:00

i assume when she did overtime for you then you worked or went out and did stuff that you possibly couldnt do if your nanny wasnt there

i dont see how overtime could make her ill, tired maybe?

what excalty is wrong with her?

it does seem a little strangre that she didnt contact you till you were on your way to work - i start at 8am and if i couldnt go in (which hasnt happened) then i would call at 7am and also see if i could get a nanny friend to cover for me

nannynick · 10/11/2008 13:00

I don't see a problem with her not being paid for today... she didn't come into work. It's day 1 of 'waiting days'. If she comes to work tomorrow then it's paid as usual.
Overtime last week is paid as per your overtime agreement. I can't see how that affects her being off sick today.
Payslip would show pay for worked hours and pay for overtime hours.

annh · 10/11/2008 13:16

Naughtmummy, her being sick and doing the overtime are two separate things. You talk about getting time back and getting extra money which is confusing. Did you agree extra money or time off in lieu for the overtime? Regardless, whatever you agreed you must stick to the agreement if she has done the overtime. Even if you agreed time off in lieu, that is separate to the fact that she is ill today.

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naughtymummy · 10/11/2008 16:38

I have already paid her for the overtime. The point is that I think she is tired (because of the overtime)rather than sick, I may be wrong of corse. As I said I have previously paid her in full when she was sick. This is the 8th sick day in about 14 months.

We cannot afford to keep paying all these expenses and her wages.

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Blondeshavemorefun · 10/11/2008 17:54

8days in 14mths does sound a lot

what does your contract stipulate?

maybe pay her for today but then say that she has used up her sick days for the year and will be only ssp

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