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Monday Staff Room: Fingers Crossed for SammyK

47 replies

Shoshe · 10/11/2008 06:42

Hope its over and done with for you today lovie.

Have put a big chocolate cake in the fridge for you to keep your strength up.

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NumberFour · 10/11/2008 14:00

I had not thought of appealing! Can you do that? Seems worth a shot.

I also know of wonderful people who have been give a well deserved outstanding but then others who also got that, and I would not ask them to mind my one and only house plant.

It is extremely subjective.

tulip31 · 10/11/2008 14:00

Sammy, I wrote a really long reply and ds4 deleted it!!!

You have done fine, she was obviously having an off day (how can you liase with a school that you don't go to???. I have reached the mindset that as long as I get a satisfactory then what ever.

YOu have done alot recently, so keep smiling, and get out of the broom cupboard, open up the longe, sit on the leather sofa, recline with your feet on the 'poof' and help yourself to the chocy cake and the ginger biscuit latte!!

tulip31 · 10/11/2008 14:01

God my spellings bad - so sorry. Trying to type fast before ds deletes again!!

Shoshe · 10/11/2008 14:04

Just got a email that Head of EYFS has esigned!!! on this site

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Shoshe · 10/11/2008 14:06

Resignation Interview

Ruth Pimentel, head of Early Years Foundation Stage, resigns

Ruth Pimentel has resigned as head of the Early Years Foundation Stage after three years in the post.

However, her employer, Capita, said she will not be leaving her post of National Director, Early Years until her successor is appointed.

Ruth took over as National Director from Lesley Staggs, who resigned three years ago. She has spent five years with the National Strategies and during her time as National Director she oversaw the implementation of the controversial Early Years Foundation Stage, which became statutory in England in September.

Ian Harrison, Managing Director, Capita SCS and National Strategies, said that the company had "reluctantly accepted that this is the right time for her to leave us to pursue the next stage of her career".

He paid tribute to Ruth and her work. "During her time with National Strategy, Ruth led the significant developments that resulted in the creation of the Early Years Foundation Stage, a major achievement and the cornerstone of the Government's early years strategy. She also played a big role in the development of the Communication, Language and Literacy Development (CLLD) programme."

Mr Harrison added that Ruth would still be supporting the National Strategies while it made "new arrangements to cover the post in the longer-term."

Beverley Hughes, Minister for Children, praised Ruth for the "excellent work" that she had done over the last five years and thanked her for the part she played in the launch of the Early Years Foundation Stage.

"During her time with the National Strategies, Ruth has led on valuable work to ensure that every child gets the opportunity to experience high quality early learning" Ms Hughes said.

"I know that Ruth will continue to play an active part in the continued development of excellent early years practice, and I wish her well with the next stage of her career."

Ruth was unavailable for comment on Friday 7 November, when news of her resignation got out, as she was in meetings all day but last month she took part in a three-way discussion about the EYFS for Morton Michel with leading Early Years Consultant Wendy Scott and myself (James Tweed).

Click here to listen to the full EYFS discussion.

During the 40-minute interview at the headquarters of the Department for Children, Skills and Families in Westminster, Ruth defended the EYFS from criticisms that its two literacy goals are set too high for most five-year-old children and that it was making childminders leave the professsion.

When asked if there was anything that she could change about the EYFS if she could, hypothetically, Ruth replied: "In terms of what we need to change, I think we need to look at the research, what the research is telling us, what information is coming back from practitioners about how they find it, how useable it is, what it actually means - because there is always going to be misinterpretation."

"What we can do to make sure that that doesn't happen? So there are two jobs to be done, I think. The first one is the job of making sure everybody understands what it is they definitely must be doing to support all children in the here and now with what they've got, what they can be doing that helps them move on. We don't want to stand still in this country; we want to continue to really move forward."

"And then there's the bigger picture stuff, which is what are the real issues that we haven't yet grasped in the Early Years Foundation Stage that we would really welcome feeding into any review that takes place."

The review by Jim Rose is expected to produce its interim findings shortly. Whether its findings are part of the reason Ruth has decided to step down now, only she knows and at the moment she's not available to comment.

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NumberFour · 10/11/2008 14:10

today i was making a small observation on one of my little ones (19 months). he called me over while i was writing. so i said, "Sorry, XXX, i cannot play right now because i have to make notes." (

two babies asleep and DS watching DVD so I am having a cup of calming herbal tea before the school run.

Thanks for that link, Shoshe.

vInTaGeVioLeNcE · 10/11/2008 14:10

sorry you were disapointed with your grading sammyK it all depends on the inspector at the end of the day doesn't it - it's a crappy system really and about time they made it fairer.
i know two c/m with outstanding and i would under no circumstances send my son to them - they just a. knew how to bullshit and say the right things on the day and b. were very lucky they had a nice chirpy inspector.
chin up - you know you are better than your grade as do the mindees parents.

PinkChick · 10/11/2008 14:11

yeah i got that too shoshe...

vInTaGeVioLeNcE · 10/11/2008 14:12

ooohhhh - i may have TWO DAYS WORK this week!!! unfortunately still only one mindee per day but it's better than nothing

SammyK · 10/11/2008 14:17

Thanks everyone for all your support and help recently.

I know satisfactory is ok, just disappointed, see so many crappy cms get goods I just don't get it!?!

Don't really want a FT WOTH job until ds in full time school but am looking at other jobs on CIS website . . .

southernbelle77 · 10/11/2008 14:33

Hugs Sammy, that's such a load of crap. You deserve more and should have got more than that.

AbbaFan · 10/11/2008 14:38

Sammy, there is a plus side, you won't have to see Ofsted for 3 years now

I can see from your posts that you love your job and work really hard. Ofsted are rubbish sometimes, it the kids that count. As long as they are happy, what does a grade matter.

Illhavethisinsize12 · 10/11/2008 14:48

are you networked sammyk, might be worth doing if not already. they give you heaps of support and get you ready for inspections. it sounds like your inspector was having an off day, you can always appeal. hate ofsted..............be me soon, just waiting for the dreaded call!

leonifay · 10/11/2008 15:23

ofsted is definatly a load of crap, you seam like a really good childminder, and worth so much more than a satisfactory. but as abbafan said you wont have another inspection for 3 years, definatly worth celebrating!!

SammyK · 10/11/2008 15:33

Yes I am a network cm, and quality assured with them, have a co-ordinator, do all the trainig available and go to events etc.

will come back in later!

mumlove · 10/11/2008 16:07

Sammy I too have only ever got satisfactory, but my mindees and their parents know that I am much better than that.

My last Ofsted inspection in April 2007 I was also told improvements needed were
having a jug of water available for my mindees (had lidded cups available for younger ones and cups on my kitchen side for older mindees) always could help themselves.
Also my first aid had run out but I had a letter with date on when I was on course (2 weeks later).
And during my inspection I only had 1 mindee with me as the others were on holiday, so I couldn't show the inspector how I could care for 3 under 5's needs at the same time!

I definately think your inspector was having a bad day.

Question - How does everyone else leave drinks accessible for their mindees?

coolj · 10/11/2008 16:09

Aww sooo sorry Sammy [sends big hugs]. I do think the word Satisfactory leaves a lot to be desired.

Well done anyway for being a caring Childminder, bollocks to Ofsted for having a shit Inspector!

southernbelle77 · 10/11/2008 16:09

That drinks thing is ridiculous. All my mindees have cups available for them with water in, but there is no way I am leaving a jug of water - it would get tipped over, accidentally on purpose no end of times in a day!!

coolj · 10/11/2008 16:16

I only have the childrens lidded cups at their level on the table. Ofsted were fine with that.

The only thing they picked up on was a knife block, which was NOWHERE near the children (unless they could move furniture and climb up high). Thing was this was where they originally told me to put it!!!!!! and remove a lock from the bathroom door, even though again I was told from them before that it was fine. I was still graded a good????? I had only been childminding for a few months.

It goes to prove that Ofsted DO NOT follow certain guidlines.

Shoshe · 10/11/2008 16:43

All mine had lidded cups, I had juice not water in a jug in the kitchen, which the schoolies can access, but certainly not the younger ones.

You know we could go through and copy exactly what the next person who got a outstanding did, and have different results depending on who your Inspector is and depending on where you are.

Sammy did you use my handbook?
I got a Outstanding for it.
If you did use it as the basis for yours would be interesting what she thought of yours!

It is a total farce, no two Inspectors want the same thing.

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tw70 · 10/11/2008 17:02

SammyK, not a childminder, just a mum. If you had my DS to look after, you could NEVER leave a jug of water around. It's like a magnet to him, and he would be there in an instant ready to pour it into cups, and then keep on pouring from one thing into another until it spills everywhere.

They are talking out of their you know what!

SammyK · 10/11/2008 18:12

Mindees mum made me feel better, she was shocked at the jug thing and said it was a H+S hazard if anything, and said I would spend all orning mopping and drying which is true with these two particular mindees!

I feel a bit better now. Mindees have gone home and DS has jumped in the bath so I gonna make a cuppa, and some food, am starved!

(Kitchen next to downsatirs bathroom in case anyone thinks am neglecting him).

It is the inconsistencies that irk me, but it won't be last one for 3 years - it was my last inpsection ever as I plan on getting a WOH job soon.

Thanks for your kind words everyone, you all healped me through the afternoon. As the weather was so grim we played buckaroo, twister, pop up pirate and hugry hippos, I don't know who enjoyed themsaelves more me or the kids!

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