My DP was talking to a mutual friend who also works in childcare - apparently all schools should be providing breakfast and after school clubs by a certain year

[SammyK]

If this is right, then that combined with the EYFS stuff will be the death of me!!

I know cms in others areas just can't compete with afterschool clubs (usually cheaper), and can see the same happening atmy local primary school.

Does anyone know the facts behind this??

The government will not be happy it seems until all childcare is institutionalised.

The primary school I collect from do not offer wrap-around care (yet) - the parents I currently mind for have said that it wouldn't make any difference if there was, even if it would be cheaper. They prefer that the children can come to a home and run riot chill out.

That's good TP, I agree their school day is long enough. In my area sadly parents choose the cheapest option IME.

I don't have any schoolies at the moment anyway, all mine are under fives, (full for under 5s for once too) but it just seems like another small push towards the door for cms I felt. When I started out I only had schoolies and lots of em! Makes me feel greatful I had that opportunity there now I think back.

2010 but it won't be a reality in all areas, unfortunately!

Thanks for that info hobbgoblin, DP couldn't remember the year!

its a target for 2010 and is intended to get schools to work with local communities I think, not so much about providing childcare, more about providing opportunities guide here

I don't think that's quite right, although I'm prepared to be corrected .

I think that schools have to be able to access before and after school care, but they don't have to provide it themselves.

All my parents decided when the wrap around care was offered at our local school, to opt to stay with me, as did other CM's clients, nearly all sighted the reason being they didn't want their children to be in school for up to ten hours a day.

I don't think however much the Government pushes Institutionalized care, Parents will always want a alternative.

I use both a CM ( 2 days) AND after school club ( 1 day)

happy with both,but i dont see either as an extension of the school day ! lol ( for the "school day is long enough " people ;) )

in after school club my son is not doing work! lol
he has sooo much fun,sports,games,art,baking or just chilling on the computer or laid out reading a book etc!

i am lucky it is a really good one,and very happy with it ( as is he, age 6)

they also do holiday care, but not breakfast club yet

The primary school where I teach has had a breakfast club and after school club for years. Lots of children go there and are fine, but a couple of the children that are dropped off at 8am and aren't picked up until 5.45pm clearly suffer from lack of attention and, well - love, actually. The little ones that start this right from Reception are shattered by this stage of the term, the days are too long for them.

I'd like my ds to continue with his cm until he goes to high school (he is 2.10 at the mo) because it's a home from home, and it makes me feel better about working when I know he is looked after and 'mothered' in another home, till I get there.

I don't think this government's agenda will push cms out of business, therefore.