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Registering with Ofsted: Nanny V Childminder registration. HELP!

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navyeyelasH · 11/08/2008 00:32

Ok so my problem is that I do not know which way it is beneficial for me to register.

I technically work as a nanny, but I also offer ad-hoc care and it would be great to be able to offer this from my own home also.

I know if I register as a CM will need all the forms/policies etc and that I will be inspected also know about EYFS and am cool with all that. But can I technically do this? I need to be registered as a parent I work for will be claiming tax vouchery things; but if I register as a CM (rather than as a nanny via voluntary route) will this effect them?

Also seems to make more sense because I may want to become a CM at some point (v v unlikely but you never know do you?)

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nannynick · 14/08/2008 20:24

Sorry, was busy Wed evening, so haven't have time to respond until now.

It says, 14 days or fewer in a year does that mean 14 consecutive days in one year or 14 days total in one year do you think?

5(1)(b) it says: "on particular premises for 14 days or fewer in a year commencing with the relevant day"
So I think it could be argued that the 14 days needs not be consecutive.

Also am I reading this right; I could be exempt under 5 (ii)(aa) so long as was only adhoc and under 4 hours? Bra5n has gone to sleep but think I am reading it right blush

Yes, but the parents need to be on the premises.
5(1)(ii)(bb) "for the convenience of clients who intend to remain on the premises where the provision is made or within their immediate locality"
It appears to me to be designed to make a crèche exempt.

205 enquiries total

That's a huge number of enquiries. I'm lucky if I can get a hand-full of enquiries a month. So very well done on getting such a high number of enquiries.

I wonder if your pricing structure has anything to do with that - you don't have prices on your website... you seem to be open to the parent's naming their price - is that the case? What price range are they giving... expect some must want childcare for free, or very low cost, whereas others will feel it is of higher value.

navyeyelasH · 14/08/2008 20:56

Hmm this is such a bugger! I think I might register as both and save myself the headache pending insurance issues. I can register as a CM in a few months so I have time to save the fee up.

I think you're right nannynick that is the reason I get so many enquiries, also loads of people (34 - some not even from my area) have emailed me saying they really like my website and that it makes me seem really approachable & fun, so that's another reason. The lowest rate I have been offered is £5 an hour (2 little girls, 2 & 4 for 4 hours on two Saturday mornings) and the most is £20 an hour for one little boy (4) which was really short notice (1 day before), also there is no minimum time slots although I have never worked for less than 4 hours. I have never turned a job down due to cost, but I am very very lucky in that my ad-hoc wage is not something we rely on. I would probably have a lot more structure in my prices if this wasn't the case!

I also advertise everyday: gumtree, facebook (have a group and profile on there), netmums, findasitter, nanny jobs, post office & local shops & churches, post flyers every fortnight, flyer cars when I go to the supermarket, when I go to local events such as school fêtes I wear a t-shirt that advertises the website and so do my mindees and sometimes so do the parents! If anyone approaches any of us we have a little chat and give them a business card.

I have no qualifications in childcare (just degrees) and not much commercial experience so I knew if I wanted to get work I would have to flexible, unfussy and quite cheap!

Thanks very much for your help on this nannynick it's much appreciated.

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navyeyelasH · 14/08/2008 20:56

Hmm this is such a bugger! I think I might register as both and save myself the headache pending insurance issues. I can register as a CM in a few months so I have time to save the fee up.

I think you're right nannynick that is the reason I get so many enquiries, also loads of people (34 - some not even from my area) have emailed me saying they really like my website and that it makes me seem really approachable & fun, so that's another reason. The lowest rate I have been offered is £5 an hour (2 little girls, 2 & 4 for 4 hours on two Saturday mornings) and the most is £20 an hour for one little boy (4) which was really short notice (1 day before), also there is no minimum time slots although I have never worked for less than 4 hours. I have never turned a job down due to cost, but I am very very lucky in that my ad-hoc wage is not something we rely on. I would probably have a lot more structure in my prices if this wasn't the case!

I also advertise everyday: gumtree, facebook (have a group and profile on there), netmums, findasitter, nanny jobs, post office & local shops & churches, post flyers every fortnight, flyer cars when I go to the supermarket, when I go to local events such as school fêtes I wear a t-shirt that advertises the website and so do my mindees and sometimes so do the parents! If anyone approaches any of us we have a little chat and give them a business card.

I have no qualifications in childcare (just degrees) and not much commercial experience so I knew if I wanted to get work I would have to flexible, unfussy and quite cheap!

Thanks very much for your help on this nannynick it's much appreciated.

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