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Does dropping to SMP whilst on mat leave with 2nd mean I lose funding for tax free childcare for my 1st?

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MummyV2021 · 02/12/2025 17:06

Hoping for someone who has experience or knowledge of this. Currently pregnant with 2nd, due in March. Have DS1 who is 4 and attends private nursery 3.5 days a week. We qualify for the 30 free hours over the year and tax free childcare (bill is still £600 a month though - wow!).

I get 17 weeks enhanced mat pay through work and we've saved and budgeted for me to take the full year off whilst still affording to live and also to allow us to keep DS1 in nursery for the current days until he starts school in September 2026. I'll end mat leave after about 10 months and then use accrued holiday for the remaining time.

When renewing for our tax free childcare today, I noticed that the earning eligibility states we both need to be earning £195.36 per week. Usually not an issue. However, there will be 5 months where I'll be earning £194.32 per week whilst fully on SMP. Does that mean we won't qualify for the funding during whichever "3 month windows" this will apply to??

I'm guessing the discrepancy of just over £1 is deliberate - working on the assumption that mums on mat leave will have all children at home with them?!

Anyone any experience of this that can confirm whether my understanding is correct and whether there's any way around it?

I'm wondering if I work the odd KIT day in the relevant window, that would be enough to take me over the weekly average for the 3 months? Technically only need to earn about £15 over the quarter to beat the average...

Any advice greatly appreciated - trying to make sure my ducks are in a row before I'm once again consumed by nappies and sleepless nights and won't have the headspace for all this!

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Nickyknackered · 02/12/2025 17:14

I haven't read any of the post because rhe answer to your title is no.

Nickyknackered · 04/12/2025 20:29

MummyV2021 · 02/12/2025 17:06

Hoping for someone who has experience or knowledge of this. Currently pregnant with 2nd, due in March. Have DS1 who is 4 and attends private nursery 3.5 days a week. We qualify for the 30 free hours over the year and tax free childcare (bill is still £600 a month though - wow!).

I get 17 weeks enhanced mat pay through work and we've saved and budgeted for me to take the full year off whilst still affording to live and also to allow us to keep DS1 in nursery for the current days until he starts school in September 2026. I'll end mat leave after about 10 months and then use accrued holiday for the remaining time.

When renewing for our tax free childcare today, I noticed that the earning eligibility states we both need to be earning £195.36 per week. Usually not an issue. However, there will be 5 months where I'll be earning £194.32 per week whilst fully on SMP. Does that mean we won't qualify for the funding during whichever "3 month windows" this will apply to??

I'm guessing the discrepancy of just over £1 is deliberate - working on the assumption that mums on mat leave will have all children at home with them?!

Anyone any experience of this that can confirm whether my understanding is correct and whether there's any way around it?

I'm wondering if I work the odd KIT day in the relevant window, that would be enough to take me over the weekly average for the 3 months? Technically only need to earn about £15 over the quarter to beat the average...

Any advice greatly appreciated - trying to make sure my ducks are in a row before I'm once again consumed by nappies and sleepless nights and won't have the headspace for all this!

You're welcome

MummyV2021 · 04/12/2025 22:59

Nickyknackered · 04/12/2025 20:29

You're welcome

I'm sorry, but your response wasn't entirely helpful as you didn't explain why your answer is no. I've found lots of conflicting things online and nothing that explicitly states anything regarding this situation on the government website which really has led me down a rabbit hole. Just telling me the answer is no without any context doesn't exactly give me the reassurance I was looking for.

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SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 04/12/2025 23:04

They will consider your annual salary so i claimed it while "earning nothing" as i already had taxable income of £XXk for the year which met the threshold as an average
so yes, you can... but if you are unsure just call the hotline. I could in fact only claim while on mat leave.

The queue is looooong but the 2 x i called the women were SO helpful and SO nice to me.
Good luck and congrats on no 2.

Btw the £600 pm is wow to me!
mine is almost 2.5k per child 😵‍💫 as I dont qualify for any government assistance.

MummyV2021 · 04/12/2025 23:11

SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 04/12/2025 23:04

They will consider your annual salary so i claimed it while "earning nothing" as i already had taxable income of £XXk for the year which met the threshold as an average
so yes, you can... but if you are unsure just call the hotline. I could in fact only claim while on mat leave.

The queue is looooong but the 2 x i called the women were SO helpful and SO nice to me.
Good luck and congrats on no 2.

Btw the £600 pm is wow to me!
mine is almost 2.5k per child 😵‍💫 as I dont qualify for any government assistance.

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Ahh thank you, that makes sense. They make this so complicated don't they?! I'm actually going to ask my work if they will pro rata my enhanced mat pay over my leave so that my pay definitely won't drop below the threshold - I'm not willing to take any chances!!

And 2.5k per month per child?! That is WILD!!! If I put my boy in FT our bill before funding would be about 1.5k. Oh man, I feel for you, that is horrendous!! I hate childcare in this country... and the fact we pay so much but the staff get paid so little is just awful!

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Tree6543 · 04/12/2025 23:17

No, you don’t lose it. Last time I reconfirmed I was in my no pay section of maternity. It asks a question or says a statement about maternity / paternity leave as part of the reconfirming & all stays fine

MummyV2021 · 04/12/2025 23:23

Tree6543 · 04/12/2025 23:17

No, you don’t lose it. Last time I reconfirmed I was in my no pay section of maternity. It asks a question or says a statement about maternity / paternity leave as part of the reconfirming & all stays fine

Thank you, that's so helpful and such a relief to hear! The thing that threw me the most was the bit around eligibility on their website that said 'you still qualify when on mat leave so long as you still meet the earning requirements'... which obviously made me jump to the SMP rate being different. Really not very clear at all!

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SalmonOnFinnCrisp · 04/12/2025 23:24

I'm actually going to ask my work if they will pro rata my enhanced mat pay over my leave so that my pay definitely won't drop below the threshold - I'm not willing to take any chances

I personally dont recommend doing that. From a cash flow perspective you are better off having it upfront.

And yes it's absolute crap!!! 😅

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