Nanny share- number of children

[Ttforty]

How many children is it reasonable to ask a nanny to do a nanny share for? I'm stumped for nursery/childminder options after a recent house move and nursery closure so am co-ordinating with other families. Is 3 children from 3 families (age 2-5) too many to ask? Asking as nanny share for 2 still substantially more expensive than nursery. Thanks!

A nanny can only Look after 2 families at the same time

And if a nwoc then her child is one family so she can't do a nanny share

But

Can have 3/4 families over the week

Mon a and b
Tue b and c
Wed a and d
Thur c and d
Fri a and c

For example

Think insurance allows for 7 children under nannys pli

Nanny insurance may limit to 6, depends on the policy.
Childcare law in England & Wales limits a nanny to caring for children from two families at the same time.
Look at practical things, such as how many children can be safely transported.

Thank you all.

Interesting re their being a childcare law limiting to 2 families. Why is that any different to a childminder?? Seems a bit strange given you can have 3 childcare in the same family with one nanny

As other posters have said nanny’s can only look after the children from two families and that’s includes own children at one time .
Alsp each family in nanny share needs to pay minimum wage eg £12 per hour , plus 5.6 weeks holiday pay and pension.
So much more expensive than a childminder and usually nursery.
Nannies don’t have to be Ofsted Registered but can be if parents want to use tax free childcare . However Nannie’s can not offer funded hours as they don’t deliver the early years foundation learning .

To have more than two families your home would need to be registered as a childcare setting and the ‘nanny’ would then register as a childminder at your home . Ofsted rules
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As a nanny, you can look after children from 2 different families at the home of one of the families. However, if more than 2 families use the care at the same time, it is classed as childminding and you will need to register as a childminder.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/childminders-and-childcare-providers-register-with-ofsted/nannies-registration

I’ve worked as a nanny and a childminder - also consider a childminder will
supply double buggy . Use own car and car seats. As an employer you would need to supply all this . If she uses her own car to transport your child , you pay mileage at 45p per mile . I would keep looking for a nursery /childminder to be honest .

@Ttforty the law is two families at any one time for nannying.

It doesn't sound like it's going to be the right solution for you anyway.

Dont be too sad about that as it's a living nightmare logistically & lots of compromises to keep all the kids/families happy. Let alone the nanny.

good luck finding the right setting for you

Lord the regulations are a nightmare! It is literally fuelling the childcare crisis as this will either push me to give up my job or- or commute 45 mins in each direction to get to an available nursery. This can't be good for children or economic productivity!

The regulations we have now have been around since the 1950's... I think the first legislation to define "childminding" was in 1954 but it may have been a bit later. There is a lot of history to it, going back to cases of baby farming... 1897 The Infant Life Protection Act, 1908 Children's Act.

Childminding is a regulated activity in the UK. Being a nanny is not. So a line has been drawn which specifies when someone has to register as a childminder.