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London mums working long hours - how do you manage childcare?

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Ceramic272 · 24/03/2024 16:53

I’m only(!) 4 months pregnant, so this is all VERY very contingent - but after some conversations with some older friends, I’m thinking ahead to how we might manage childcare in London and feeling totally at sea.

DH and I both work your stereotypical corporate (read not very child friendly) jobs… However we do both love our work/are on good tracks. I’ll need to go back full time maybe around 9months (we will try and share some parental leave though I’ll do the bulk). SAHM/ part time isn’t on the table for various reasons, nor is a longer mat leave really an option in my job (so please please don’t start a debate on any of those/tell me to change jobs! It’s difficult enough to make it in my industry as a woman as it is :/.)

So the main options then are a nursery or nanny. It seems a nursery would be “cheaper” ( maybe around 25k a year?), and I like the idea of “socialisation” I guess, but obviously they all end 630pm latest. Frustratingly both our jobs can be unreliable and end much later in the day, with longish commutes, so I worry this will cause significant stress between us ducking out of meetings/constantly trying to decide whose turn it is to dip out for pick up etc.

So the obvious option is a nanny- and the more senior women I work with who have children all use this - but I’m just stunned at the costs! Am I right in thinking it’s going to be 50-60k per year all in? :s We could manage but with all other mortgage costs etc we’d basically not be saving much/anything at all..

Are there any ways to manage this better- eg 3-4 days a week nanny/1-2 days a week nursery? (as we can each wfh 1 day a week- but I don’t know if nannies are keen to work part time..). Or has anyone tried nursery plus say an an au pair/nanny evening wraparound to give some flexibility? (Is that even an option?) And where is the best place to find nannies - is it simplest to go through an agency first (and which one?) I’d love to hear tips from other London folk in similar job positions on the best ways to manage!

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TheSnowyOwl · 08/04/2024 17:32

Definitely a nanny or share. If you can definitely wfh on set days then you might find a nursery for those days works well but I think two different types of childcare can end up being a hassle.

I’m assuming you don’t have any family or reliable friends that could help out if necessary for a one off if trains are cancelled or unexpected sickness?

If for any reason you do want to go down the nursery route, you can look for one close to where you or your DH work (although I wouldn’t fancy a commute with a baby or toddler) as that will give you a bit more time for drop off and pick up. (But trust me, opt for a nanny!).

londonmummy1966 · 08/04/2024 21:57

Not quite sure why the snarky comment from @SuiGeneris - about one in 7 women get PND - far better to protect yourself with a few insurance premia then end up screwed because you can no longer work.... If you can't live on one salary make sure you have income protection pretty basic belt and braces approach to me.

SuiGeneris · 08/04/2024 23:19

Not at all meant to be snarky. I thought what you were saying was very sensible but, mindful of how anxious one can be in early pregnancy, I was trying to be reassuring. Sorry if it came across the wrong way.

Nubnut · 09/04/2024 08:19

One thing to say about the idea of working split days where you logon again after the baby is in bed, is that you will very probably have many (or all, for the unlucky ones) nights where the baby wakes you up 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 times, especially when they are ill. So you have to go to bed at 9pm in order to be able to get enough sleep to work (and safely get to work).
And this can go on until the child is three or worse.

Even if you are going to bed at 11pm because you have a good sleeper, I think many people feel they go mad if they don't have any time to wind down at all before bed.

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 09/04/2024 10:57

It used to be that by the time the mother returned to work after 9-12months’ mat leave, the father (and his employer) had started to enjoy the perks of him having a SAHM type set up, which set a negative precedent for the ensuing working parents dynamic, IMO.

This is a really important point. It also completely changes the dynamic in your relationship so you become the default carer / thinker/ planner for all things child. Your partner will default to you on everything - what does X eat? How much? What toys? When does X sleep? etc etc. It's exhausting and you will get more and more resentful.

It's also bloody lonely. Sitting at home with a baby while your partner does long hours and doesn't have the energy to speak when they get in. I couldn't wait to go back to work.

I had to do a lot of long haul travel when I returned to work so was gone a week at a time, pretty much every month. Even with a nanny, DH had to completely step up mentally and it made him massively more competent and confident as a parent.

You'll get lots of folk on Mumsnet who'll give you the whole "why did you bother to have kids" etc but I see nothing wrong with handing my child over to someone daily whose skills and capabilities are far more suited to entertaining and developing a child than mine. I try to outsource as much as possible so on the weekends I spend time with my children and they get the best of me/us.

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