Paying for nanny to register with Ofsted?

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Hi, I am thinking of paying for my nanny to be registered with Ofsted so I can claim childcare tax credit thingies and also sign up for voucher scheme through work (I think it's £100 to register, so hopefully it will pay for itself).

Does anyone know if this would count as a taxable 'bonus' for her, or can I just give it to her on the side as a freebie?

we're doing the same for our nanny due to start in april. hadn't even thought about the tax aspect of it - was just going to give her the money! (its not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things is the way i see it and i pay more than enough tax tp add that to the pile!!!)

just another thing to consider though - ofsted registration also requires nanny to have public liabilty insurance. i've also 'given' the nanny £60 for this too as she wouldn't have had it otherwise ie. its to tick OUR box for childcare vouchers. she already has first aid so that shouldn't be an issue, but worth considering cost wise if your nanny would need to update/do hers.

Thanks, I'll look into the insurance thing - must have missed that! Our nanny recently qualified as a nurse so I'm thinking that will count towards the first aid thing, but waiting to hear.

blimey, never thought of that. essentially employing a nanny is like setting fire to your bank account anyway, so hadn't even occurred to me - i think i may even have read somewhere that it is a benefit in kind. oh dear.

['forgets' again immediately]

Oh and if the above comment seems derogatory to nannies I apologise - I love employing a nanny in fact, and prize mine above rubies, it's just that we spend 56% of our household take home income on childcare and sometimes it hurts!

The nursing qualification may not cover the 1st aid.

She will need:
A core skills qualification
A 12 hour paeds specific 1st Aid cert
Insurance from Morton Michel or similar.

Re: paying for nanny's insurance there's some complication about that as if she ever needs to claim on the insurance for legal advice because you accuse her of child abuse or something and you pay. I can't quite remember what it is but my cousin's a nanny and her partner does employment law and one of her employers offered to pay for the insurance and he said she shouldn't let them. She always had insurance anyway but £60 doesn't really go amiss!

I've paid for my nanny to have Ofsted membership and as this is her first nanny job and she's a bit broke, I've paid for PANN membership (which includes insurance) this year as well.

I have told her I will pay for her Ofsted registration every year because it's for our benefit with the childcare vouchers. However, after this first year, we're going to expect her to pay for her insurance or PANN membership because it's a reasonable professional expense the same way keeping her car roadworthy is.

Cheers
Vicky
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PANN membership, hmm... not often I hear that being mentioned. NCMA nanny is another membership organisation which can provide insurance.
PANN I rarely hear of in government discussions, NCMA though do see more vocal though they mostly deal with childminders.

dotvicky and monkeyboys - it is very generous of you to both pay for the insurance for the nanny but agree with fran, god forbid something did happen to your children while under your nannys care, the fact you both paid for your nannies insurance might make it invalid, and as much as you might say, you would never sue your nanny, that is why the insuance is there to protect the nanny.

60 pounds a year is £5 a month - sure a nanny can find that amount, most of us get paid well {wink}and esp as the employer should pay the 100 cost to be registered, a nanny should pay for the insurance

does that make sense?

i paid the registration fee and assumed as it's me paying it to oftsted not me paying it to the nanny it was nothing to do with her tax but maybe i am wrong?

also i assumed when it asked about liability insurance being in place that they meant MY liability insurance which i have as an employer. so told her to tick the box. is this wrong?

tho in my defence m'lud find it hard to take a form seriously from an organisation who, when asked what qualifications they require to prove a nanny's competence in the core skills, responded : 'we haven't decided yet'.

Yes that is wrong.

The insurance she requires is HER liability insurance in case, heaven forbid, something happens to your children whilst they're in her care. It will pay her legal costs if you ever accuse her of negligence or child abuse so it shouldn't be connected to you in any way financially either.

They don't seem to check the type of insurance... you would of thought they would be a bit more like DVLA and check the insurance database.
It is the nanny insurance they wanted, not employers - though in fact they should really be checking BOTH.