Splitting 30 hours across 2 settings

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I don’t mind admitting I am finding the thirty free hours that aren’t free confusing but to add to the complexity of it all, my child attends two settings, one for two days (8-4) and one for two mornings a week (9-12.)

Anyone know how to go about this: do I just give the form into both settings? Thanks

What form?

Both settings should get you to complete a parent declaration. You need to be clear about which setting is claiming which hours. The 30 hours are offered as 2 lots of 15 hours (universal and extended) so if they both try to claim the same hours, they will be rejected!

DTs are at 2 settings (pre school 9-3 2 days a week, and nursery 8-5 2 days). We use the funded hours with the more expensive one.

You fill in the funding form at both settings.

Allocate the funding how ever you want.

If you are confident that you'll always be eligible for 30 hours, then it doesn't matter who gets the basic 15 hours and who gets the additional/extended 15 hours.

If there's a chance you might become ineligible for the second 15 hours at some point, then allocate the initial 15 hours to the most expensive setting. This is to ensure that the bigger expense is definitely covered.

@KateyCuckoo - the form I’ve downloaded from the gov website, hopefully that’s the right one.

Thanks @Littlefish . it is really confusing me. I never thought I was particularly stupid but perhaps so!

@anicecuppateaa similar here, but two days doesn’t equal thirty (or even twenty two) hours so this is what’s confusing me!

9-4 = 7 hours, so 2 days = 14 hours out of the initial 15 hour funding.

9-12 = 3 hours, so 6 hours per week.

So, 1 hour out of initial 15 hour funding and 5 hours out of the extended 15 hours funding.

Of course, this all depends on each setting offering those particular hours in their funding offer!

Thanks so much. I think the first setting offer 22 hours as spread across the year. Man, this is confusing!

OK I'm a childminder and dint get any forms given to me, just the code and we have a parent declaration from the Borough that we have to get parents to complete..

Also in our LA you can't stretch one and TTO the other, they both have to be offered over the same amount of weeks.

I'd check with the settings - some don't let you split the hours

They might do, but that would be the equivalent of 30 hours a week term time, meaning that setting is getting the normal (15hrs) plus the extended (15hrs) hours. So you'd only be eligible for the funding for the one setting, and none for the second. You can't split the 30 hours however you want.

I know one setting won’t let you do TTO, but the other setting is only open term time so a bit confusing, potentially!

I know one setting lets you split the hours, not sure about the other one. If it comes to it we could just access the free hours at the more expensive one.

Thanks @fitforflight . It’s probably easiest if we just do that then, but then we seem to be significantly under what we could claim for even if only 22 hours.

The 30 hours is spread over a year if the setting is open 51/52 weeks.

We have a term time setting and year round, and we use the hours at the latter. 30 funded hours basically equates to 2 days a week there all year, although they’ve just announced they are going to start charging a £2ph top up…

In my borough I'm allowed to claim TTO but spread it over the weeks in open within the term so a 13 week term spread over 16, and another over 19 and a 12 over 13 ( I'm open 48 weeks) you need to talk to your providers and work out what's best.

We spilt DD hours between private nursery and school nursery. The nursery talked me through what to do. I can't remember what it entailed so it must have been really easy- just ask them