Fair rate of pay for p/t nanny with two kids of her own, Surrey

[eemie]

We'd like to employ a qualified and experienced nanny we know for p/t after-school care, some housekeeping, and school holidays.

The nanny has a child of school age and a pre-schooler and would look after them with our dd. I've looked up previous threads about rates, but they're a bit out of date. Her previous employer was paying under £8 per hour (gross) for similar duties, which seems on the low side to me.

Does anyone have current information? Have looked on agency websites as well but most quote weekly rates rather than hourly.

Thanks in advance

When i took my 2 to work with me (6 years ago) i was charging £8 per houtr net (based in herts)

Thanks, phraedd

I would say £8 per hour gross is darned good deal for taking your kids to work with you. If you regard it as a share (and you should) then that is your half of a £16 per hour wage.

I am a qualified/10yrs experienced nanny that took my DS aged 4 with me to 2 previous part-time nanny jobs located in surrey.1st job was just after school care looking after 3 children with no house- keeping involved and that was £10phr net in term 15 hours, £7phr net in holidays. 2nd job was nanny/housekeeper £10phr net 20 hrs a week.

We'll be paying £8ph net for our own three DCs (one at school), in London.

Thanks for your replies. Off to work out the difference between £8 gross and £10 net and see what it would do to our finances.

Lounan, was the higher rate in term time to compensate for working shorter hours/higher travel costs?

TIA again

With the highter rate in term time i just felt that i couldnt expect to get that in the holidays especially when i wasn't doing any other nanny duties ie childrens washing, changing beds.I was just looking after the children playing and feeding them.I didn't get mileage in term time as I walked to school to collect children.

I only had a kitty of £20 in the holidays which wasn't alot but we did lots of outside things and they had a great house to be around.I had a allowance of 100 miles a week that i couldn't exceed in the holidays so this also kept costs down.

If you are expecting house-keeping then I wouldnt take anything lower then £10phr depending on where you are, you could offer a flat rate for the week regardless of extra hours in holidays making it more affordable for you.

I know quite a few nannies that have done this, this way you both know where you stand in regardes to pay (Net & Gross)

As a nanny who works in Surrey, who does NOT have children, I get £7.32 gross per hour (calculated from an annual salary). So like eleusis, I think £8 gross per hour is a good deal - especially as your nanny would get to take her own children with her.
Surrey is a big county and includes parts of London. But my experience is that wages outside of the M25, are quite low.

The market at the moment is such that there are lots of nannies looking for work, and not enough parents looking to employ a nanny. Therefore you can negotiate hard on wages.

How about some comparisons....
Temping in nurseries in Surrey is typically paid £8 per hour gross - and she would not be able to take her own children with her.

A childminder in Surrey could care for your dd... cost varies, but where I am in West Surrey, it is around £4.50 per hour, and during school holidays some childminders do special rates - as they have to compete with playschemes (which can be £28 per day).

Where in Surrey are you located?
How old are the children involved (as their age can restrict activities, for example, if you wanted your dd to go swimming, then most pools will not permit a ratio of 1:3 for under 8's)?

I would also think hard (and set clear expectations) about what housekeeping you reasonably expect her to do. If you think you are going to save the money you would normally spend on a cleaner, then you probably aren't.

Thank you everyone

Lounan - when you say you had a kitty of only £20 for the holidays, is that for the 6 weeks over the summer?

What would be a reasonable kitty to leave for a baby, 3 y.o. and 8 y.o. (the 3 and 8 yo in school for part of the day)? And how does it work? Is it for coffees & cakes when taking the kids out, do you keep track of expenses? Or is it for buying a loaf of bread and bottle of milk for the family if you run out? Our nanny would be working 2 days a week.

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Agree with nannynick, I also think £8ph gross for a Nanny bringing her own children is a good wage. We pay our Nanny £10ph gross (without any children), and that is a higher than average wage, I certainly wouldn't expect to pay more than £8ph for what is effectively a Nanny share..

The agencies i went through always said to expect a highter wage per hour as parents find it hard to find part-time nannies willing to do just after school hours.

CristinaTheAstonishing £20 for the holidays was per week.I always kept receipts and wrote down everything i spent in the nanny diary. The kitty would cover anything from a pint of milk, loaf of bread to stationary/craft stuff.

I would think that you wouldnt have to pay out alot in holidays with the baby as most things would be free for under 1's.I would plan 1 main outing a week which would come out of the kitty then the other days i would plan free stuff ie meeting up with other nannies, craft days, playdates, bike rides and just getting out for a walk.

oh forgot to mention that my son was a day nursery 3 days a week(very expensive) 8-1pm from 2yrs so in that respect I didnt see it as a nanny share.

£20 a week for holidays is probably unrealistic, especially as it would need to cover child + nanny. One trip to the cinema would see to half of that or more.