voluntary ofsted registration/tax savings

[monkeyboys]

i've had alook through the threads and while i can see alot of ofsted related things regarding childminders (i was getting cross on a lot of your behalfs just reading them!), i can't find much about ofsted registration for nannies.

from what i understand, nanny needs to be ofsted registered to do the salary sacrifice and save tax. dh can do this being 'employed' whereas i'm stuffed because i'm self-employed. we don't qualify for tax credits, so essentially there's nothing i can do tax wise about my income and outgoings for childcare.

so for nanny to be registered we have a difference of opinions. she thinks her current first aid (a normal one day course) is valid and its just the crb check they will be doing as this is what her friend needed for recent registration. i'm really hoping she's right but have heard and read on the ofsted site that she needs public liability insurance, a 12hr+ first aid course and then the crb check doing. i've also read that ofsted don't know there arses from there elbows and give different advice everytime you phone them .

anyone been through this recently or at least since the rules changed? who's right??? and how long does it take?

if there's a thread that ive missed with all this on it then just let me know!

Oh I'm sure I've posted lots in the past about Ofsted Registration for Nannies

OCR voluntary Requirements - This is the main document produced by Ofsted. Below is my list of the key things your nanny will need to do/comply with.

Nannies (like Childminders and Nursery staff) should have a 12-hour Early Years First Aid course, typically this is done over 2 days... my last course was on two consecutive Saturdays. The course should be approved by Ofsted - St.Johns Early Years First Aid is suitable.
Ofsted phrase this as "appropriate First Aid qualification". Somewhere on either the Ofsted website, or the SureStart website, is details of what they consider a first aid course should cover. Found it... Criteria for First Aid Courses (MS Word document)

The nanny must not smoke, or consume or be under the influence of drugs or alcohol while providing childcare.

Must have completed training in the core skills - so will need to have done some kind of childcare training course.

Must manage children's behaviour in a suitable manner.

Must have Public Liability Insurance

Must be suitable to work with children, Ofsted will do an Enhanced CRB check, annually.

With regard to your nannies current first aid course, it needs to be within the past 3 years. As it isn't likely to be a 12 hour course, it doesn't meet the criteria. But it may not be checked... so may be possible to use for initial registration, but must be updated at earliest convenience - as if Ofsted were to check, then there could be a problem.

I applied (online) to Ofsted on 1st August 2007 for nanny registration. Forms arrived and were sent back, and my registration certificate came through 17 September - so took under 7 weeks.

Once certificate is through, then the childcare voucher company will want a copy of it, and then set your nanny up as a payee... this can also take several weeks depending on the voucher provider.

In all, I'd suggest allowing 10 weeks for the process.

thabks (again!) nick. i think you and i have the same ideas about requirements - i'd spent ages on there website but it seemed to be varying.at odds at what was happening practically in the real world.

i think an online appkication has been done, fingers crossed tje first aid etc is ok. she's not got back to me about the insurance so wikk wait and see what happens with that.

thanks for taking the time to give me those links & info. have you recently applied yourself then?? i was sure there would be something about ofsted reg for nannies on here already but i still can't find it!!

Yes, I went though the process in Aug-Sept 2007.