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Can nursery say they only allow 30 free hours on 4 or more days?

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iliketobooogie · 17/04/2023 15:41

Our nursery have a fees table.
Set out with:

  • 7, 8 or 9 hour days,
  • for 3, 4 or 5 days/week
  • on either 30 free hours, 15 free hour or under 2 years prices.

It looks like they accept the 15 free hours on any combination of days/hours. But only accept 30 free hours on 4 or 5 days a week.

So with me only working 3 days a week, can I not benefit from the 30 free hours at this nursery?

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Cleoforever · 17/04/2023 15:42

Yes they can

Goodoccasionallypoor · 17/04/2023 15:43

Yes, they can do this.

Cleoforever · 17/04/2023 15:57

So with me only working 3 days a week, can I not benefit from the 30 free hours at this nursery?

well you could put your child in for the fourth day that you don’t work and get the 30 hours but you choose not to. So it’s really down to you op

SmirnoffIceIsNice · 17/04/2023 16:00

How can you benefit from 30 free hours over 3 days if the maximum day length they have is 9 hours? They're not offering 10 hour days.

Goodoccasionallypoor · 17/04/2023 16:01

SmirnoffIceIsNice · 17/04/2023 16:00

How can you benefit from 30 free hours over 3 days if the maximum day length they have is 9 hours? They're not offering 10 hour days.

Because most private nurseries stretch hours across the year which works out as about 22 hours a week.

80sMum · 17/04/2023 16:15

The nursery will need to do whatever it can to make itself financially viable. That often means limiting the number of hours, only allowing the so-called "free" hours at certain times etc.

Unfortunately, calling the 30 (or the 15) subsidised hours "free" is a misdescription on the government's part, a con if you like.

I used to work in a nursery. Years ago, before nursery vouchers, nursery grant, early years free entitlement etc etc existed, we used occasionally to have children referred for a free nursery place by the local council. I used to invoice the council for the child's sessions. Those were genuinely free places, funded by the council. Nowadays, nurseries are lucky if the funding amounts to 50% of their fees, so they have to fiddle about with the timings, hours etc in order to try to make up for the shortfall.

iliketobooogie · 17/04/2023 16:16

SmirnoffIceIsNice · 17/04/2023 16:00

How can you benefit from 30 free hours over 3 days if the maximum day length they have is 9 hours? They're not offering 10 hour days.

I was just about to say the same as previous poster.
DC will be attending all year round so hours will be stretched so 27 hours a week could be covered by funded hours but obviously nursery cannot afford to do this..

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Mochinated · 17/04/2023 18:14

You benefit from the 30 hours discount once child is eligible. Think of it as a discount instead of "free" and it will make more sense.

jannier · 17/04/2023 22:38

iliketobooogie · 17/04/2023 16:16

I was just about to say the same as previous poster.
DC will be attending all year round so hours will be stretched so 27 hours a week could be covered by funded hours but obviously nursery cannot afford to do this..

How does that stretch to 27 hours are they closed 10 weeks a year?

jannier · 17/04/2023 22:41

Stretched hours is 1140 hours divided by the number of weeks a setting is open .....some will stretch termy in my borough there are 2 13 week terms and a 12 week term so the summer term is divided by 19 weeks

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