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CHILDMINDERS - talk to me for a moment, if you please!

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MaureenMLove · 09/02/2008 13:10

From Monday, I will be doing an experiment! Everytime you post and eveytime you have 'down' time in the Staff room, I want you to note how long you've been there (and how much time you have deglected your duties as a cm! )

I won't be on all day, contrary to popular belief, but I know now that my mindee will be asleep between 9.30 and 10.30 and again between 2 - 3.30! This means that I am allowed to be in there for at 2 1/2 hours!

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eleanorsmum · 09/02/2008 13:37

ooh big brother! i only seem to get in here first thing in the morning! but it'd be interesting to see just how long we are in here..........................

Carmenere · 09/02/2008 13:39

This will end in tears (or lies)

MaureenMLove · 09/02/2008 13:40

Don't panic, Big Sister is far friendlier! I just thought I'd see if the comments on 'that' thread are justified! I hope she didn't judge me on a Wednesday or Thursday, because I don't start work until 3.30pm on those days!

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MaureenMLove · 09/02/2008 13:43

Thing is, the poor OP on that thread hasn't 'done' cm's before, so she has no experience of a good or bad cm, so inevitably she has looked on MN! We all know there's nowt worse than MN for blowing things out of all proportions!

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KatyMac · 09/02/2008 14:36

Last week I made 93 posts

17 of them were during opening hours

split equally betwwen Monday & Friday (as far as I can tell) plus one each am in the staff room

I didn't work either day

BoysAreLikeDogs · 09/02/2008 14:40

Me ! Me ! Me !

We start Monday? Okeydoke

looneytune · 09/02/2008 17:00

WHAT THREAD, WHAT THREAD???????!!!!!!!!!

Just got back in from part 2 of EYFS training and thought I'd have a nice cuppa as the boys are out. Where's the gossip then.........PLEASE direct me to THAT thread someone

KatyMac · 09/02/2008 17:01

Looney go on to childminders & see - it will jump out at you

looneytune · 09/02/2008 17:02

But I'm in the childminders section so bit confused

KatyMac · 09/02/2008 17:07

Sorry it's here

looneytune · 09/02/2008 17:09

Cheers, will have a look!

MaureenMLove · 09/02/2008 17:09

Oh christ! That'll sort ya low blood pressure out! Take it easy on there, remember your condition and breath!

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looneytune · 09/02/2008 17:26

Oh FFS. Do they really think we're sat at a computer just waiting for the next post. I personally only stay on if mindees are napping but yes, may pop on very quickly to type a message whilst they are having a snack, playing etc. and then it's back to it usually. Maybe she's a very slow typer and doesn't realise how quickly people can pop in and out!!! Anyway, having the staff room there if you need it helps you feel like you're not alone and you can interact with other 'grown ups' from time to time. Ya know what......I can't be bothered to justify anything, she can think I'm a crap childminder if she wants.....I KNOW better!!

crace · 09/02/2008 17:27

Yeesh some people huh?!

nannynick · 09/02/2008 18:19

I only get time to read/post, when I'm not working. No time to MN during my working day.

frannikin · 09/02/2008 18:20

Does babysitting count? Cos, y'know, they're asleep so I can do what I like, right? But should I still be planning educational stimulating activities in case one of them wakes up?

mumlove · 09/02/2008 19:59

I will try if I remember!

The poster must want us from the moment the first mindee arrives to the last one leaving we must not leave their sides, play with them etc. So no toilet time, no coffee, no lunch.
Can smile about this one she can write to ofsted and tell them that we cannot do observations on mindees as we need to play with them, no time for writing!!
We would not even be able to sit and write out mindees diary. She needs to see how much work we do when mindees are not with us, it's nearly 24/7, as I always go to bed thinking about activities to do etc.

Littlefish · 10/02/2008 09:57

Honorary childminder here (as invited by MaureenMLove).

Littlefish · 10/02/2008 09:58

Actually, just a very grateful parent!

KaySamuels · 10/02/2008 17:13

I read that thread and couldn't even be bothered to be post. Most parents on the thread said they didn't want or expect constant one on one stimulation for their kids - common sense seemed to come through thankfully.

OP clearly has no idea how busy cmers are, it's rare I get on here during a working day, unless I have a gap between part timers coming and going.

Since I started cm'ing lunch is usually a sandwhich standing up, hot drinks are a thing of the past and I seem to spend every evening on paperwork /diaries /coursework /training /planning, good for fgure bad for energy levels. I think OP will have great trouble finding childcare to match her high expectations.

KaySamuels · 10/02/2008 17:17

Hi littlefish your posts on the thread were lovely - so what do you do and why??

Littlefish · 10/02/2008 17:46

I'm a teacher (usually Reception), but I moved out of school partly because I felt that many children in Early Years were having unrealistic expectations placed on them at too young an age.

I now work in a 0-5 centre, some of my time is as a nursery teacher. I've seen some good practice there, but I still don't think that a nursery setting compares (for younger children) with being in a home environment.

As I can understand the reasons why nurseries suit some parents (almost no chance of nursery being closed due to staff ill health, open 52 weeks a year etc. etc.), I want to do my best to make the environment within the nursery as close to a home environment as possible ie. like that of a childminder.

I said on a previous thread that I feel that the EYFS is absolutely in line with the seamless approach that childminders have always offered to children in their care - looking at each child as an individual, regardless of age, moving from one stage of development to another in a child centred, practical, caring and intuitive way.

Working in a nursery, but having my child with a childminder has caused me to be asked some awkward questions in the past. However, I still firmly believe that for my child, a childminder is absolutely the right choice. Unlike some of the parents I work with, I positively wanted my child to have the opportunity to develop a close bond with one special person. In no way did I feel that it threatened my relationship with dd, it just strengthened her ability to forge strong relationships with trusted adults.

I applaud you all for the excellent work you do.

Not really a very exciting reason KaySamuels, but it's a really important issue for me.

dmo · 10/02/2008 19:49

just made mw laugh little fish while your busy trying to make yout nursery more homelike Oftead on hot on their heels trying to make childminders more like nurserys

KatyMac · 10/02/2008 19:54

Littlefish - as you know I'm opening a nursery - I would be very interested in the stuff you do to make the nursery more childminder like as that is what I intend for my nursery

Littlefish · 10/02/2008 21:27

Well Katymac - that's my challenge isn't it!. The difficulty is that I'm only in the nursery 1 day a week, and not everyone working in the nursery shares my ideas .

However, the sort of things we currently do are:

  • have proper sofas where children can relax/read books/listen to stories
  • provide feedback for parents through books of photographs of their child with comments about the learning that's taking place
  • providing snacks on a "snack bar" type basis so that children can help themselves when they are hungry, rather than be dictated to
  • plant vegetables (in troughs) in our very small garden so that the children can make the connection between growing, cooking and eating
  • children wear slippers or socks in the nursery (depends whether you think this is a feature of home life or not!)

-times every day when the older children (3-5s) can play with the younger children (2-3s)

  • hopefully after half term, we will have a permanent shared area for the two different age groups where they will eat, have open ended creative and exploratory opportunities, and socialise
  • also after half term, we're moving to a "family style" of eating where the children will sit round a table with an adult and all serve themselves, rather than have their food served to them from a central point

Any more ideas would be greatly appreciated! What do you do in your homes that you think would work well in nurseries? e.g. MaureenMLove's mindees e-mail their parents at work which I think is a fabulous idea and brings a real purpose to IT for children.

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