Nannies - Term Time Only, Do you get paid a retainer for school holidays?

[nannynick]

I work for teachers and have a 36 week working year, plus get 4 weeks holiday, plus bank holidays (during those 36 weeks).

I'm paid an annual salary which is split over 12 months, so during the holidays I still have income. Calculating how much I'm paid an hour is hard, as there is more than one way of calculating it - either it's the hours actually worked (including statutory holiday), or it could be calculated over the entire year, taking the other 12 weeks as also being holiday.

Does anyone else work term-time only? How is your pay calculated? I'm wondering if I'm getting a raw deal.

nick i saw your post on the other thread and was surprised at your pay

should i ever return to work i will make yuo an offer

that doesn't look right

Me again . I did term tome only and they calculated a normal working weeks wages and multiplied by 52 then divided by 12 but added an extra 100 pounds per week that was holiday time IYSWIM .It worked out to be 150 a week all year .

Yeah I'm surprised at my pay as well though at the time of taking the job, I wasn't getting any other offers - agencies were finding it very hard to even get me interviews, due to my being male! Wasn't the Mothers who had the issue, but the fathers! My job is nice and local at least, so low travel to/from work costs... but all this recent chat about nannies salaries does get me down a bit and makes me think that it is time to job hunt (anyone want a nanny in West Surrey for September 2008 start?).

No - do you fancy moving to Norfolk & working in my Nursery?

KatyMac - very tempting.

Shall we discuss terms?

I have this piece of coursework........

OK one quick question, could you do additional work in the holiday?? I ask this as I am sure there are parents who need the opposite to your cureent employers, who can cope with the term times, but not holidays.

Or contact places like Esprit holidays who do childcare overseas. We have just got back and they bring additional nannies/childcare workers in for the peak times (school holidays) - Just a thought. ALso they love male nannies, there was one in val d'isere and he was great. There are loads of guys a snow rangers (between 3 and 12 year olds) who are also brilliant.

Just a thought mind, but worth a look surely

nannynick - our nanny works different hours in term time and holidays (in fact works more in holidays). we agreed on an hourly rate (about £10 gross). worked out the total number of hours worked in the year, total annual salary and divided by 52.

she does bits and pieces of other work - luckily she has found some families who are happy to have extra help during term time but not during holidays - which helps us keep her.

I am sure you could pick up more holiday work. loads of people need it

The arrangement I have with my nanny is a bit looser than that - I get 12 weeks holiday a year, which I mainly use during school holidays.

On top of her 5 weeks holiday a year which is paid, if she cannot find work to fill in one of my other holiday weeks, then we pay her as normal. However, sometimes we will ask her to work the odd day or two of that time if I need to do something else, providing of course that she is not working for someone else!

She finds ad hoc work surprisingly easily through one of hte local nanny agencies.

nannynick - I don;t understand the second option you give as a way of calculating your hourly rate. if you have an annual salary and are contracted to work 36 weeks a year then your hourly salary is annual salary divided by (36 x hours per week).

You have a generous holiday allowance. If I were employing you I'd have worked it out on a pro-rata basis. (I work less than full-time and my holiday is done like this). I don;t think I'm mean!

When I took the job, I had expected to be able to get other work during the holidays. But that didn't really materialise. Did some nursery temping the first year and also temp nannying, did some work on a playscheme this past summmer. Trouble is in my area, a full day at a playscheme (unfunded) is around £26, a funded playscheme can be a lot less £8-£10. Thus there does not seem to be the demand for holiday-care.

I would calculate it as you do Hatwoman. The other way would be to allocate some of the salary as being a retainer fee for the holidays.

ahh - with you