CM Club: Help my brain is going to implode

[KatyMac]

OK are you ready for this

Health Protection Agency ? National body writing policy for whole country says 48 hrs for D&V & no exclusion for conjunctivitis dated Oct 06
Health Protection Unit ? Local Branch of HPA writes policy for Norfolk says 72 hrs for D&V & exclusion for Conjunctivitis dated Nov 05

Apparently local people say that national advice is wrong/incorrect & we should use local advice even thought the advise is dated later from the central body

I am too dim to understand this

Oh KM are you intent on giving yourself a headache today? {Kay jokingly punches KM on the arm in a clumsily friendly gesture of solidarity.}

I would say most recent, national advice personally but thats just me.

However I think to have it as a cast iron ruling you should ask Ofsted to let you know in writing which you should follow.

Do you think parents realise the time we spend on these things??

i would also say the most recent advice as if you are wrong, at least you can give reason why(that it was the latest advice available)

I'm getting really wound up by this conjuctivitis thing. Don't know why, things don't normally bother me, but I really have got the arse about this!

I don't know the answer Katy, I'm not sure I know anything anymore. I'm going to phone Ofted tomorrow and see what they advise. They are the people that we set our standards by and they are the people that will make the final decision.

(Still can't help thinking that anyone in their right minds wouldn't take a sick kid to a playgroup though, and wonder why the cm's are being arsey! )

Right there with you mml.

Could you get it in writing & can I have a copy?

'course, we're stuffed if they say its acceptable!

We'll keep that to ourselves though!

Check the D&V thing to - there's a dear

Will do!

Love you

Now come & sort out my bottles please

You wanna give me a clue then or have I got to find it myself?

Ohhh hide & seek on-line?

Maybe not

here

No idea but have just emailed Ofsted to ask so will let you know what they say

girls girls i little hush now please!!!!!!
whatever the guidelines say (and i quote guidelines) bottom line is its your business and your policys whatever you think is right goes
and if inconsiderat people bring germy children to playgroup/toddler group then its up to us if we stay or go (i vote stay and kick germ child out but hey)

DMO, you are naughty!!....but absolutely right

I agree with DMO... it's all just Guidelines. It's advice and purely that. It can be ignored.
Airborne transmitted disease/virus in my view should result in exclusion. Touch transmitted does not need exclusion, but just close monitoring - so that spread risk is limited.
It can be handy to refer to something, when you want backup for your own policy... thus if you want to exclude for D&V for 72 hours, then use the Norfolk HPA as backup. If parents can read something they think is 'official'... then they are more inclined (well sometimes) to go along with it!

Also agree and I will do whatever I personally want however it's always good to be able to have guidelines to show parents

Here's the reply from Ofsted:

Dear Madam

Thank you for your email.

Ofsted can only advise with regards to what is stipulated in the National Standards. The Guidance to the National Standards for Childminding states,

"When thinking about your policy for excluding children who are ill or infectious think about:

Confidentiality
Impplications for other children
Medical advice and the procedures related to infectious, notifiable and communicable diseases
The care of a sick children while awaiting collection
In addittion, you may wish to consider:

How you inform parents about your policy and any infection that has occurred
What parents need to tell you about any illnesses or condition of their child, for example an infectious disease, head lice, thread worm
Making sure emergency contact numbers and children's medical details are up to date
Keeping up to date with current health issues

I hope you find this information of use. However, should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.