How do i do contract for this temp cm job?

[gabyjane]

Hi this is my first post (i think!) so go easy on me..
I have had a call r.e 15 weeks work for a 5 yr old, basically to cut a long story short we both agreed that it would be easier that I had her at her house, i then asked if it would be through the books as such so i knew r.e paperwork..she said yes..now i'm worrying that i'm not actually allowed to work in her house..it's from 4-8pm so she will be up for about 3 hrs...I wasn't called as a childminder it was a recomendation through a friend..Help please. Thanks x

I think you're OK because its in their house, but I don't know the official line. You need font of all knowledge and regulations on childcare, Nannynick! Eventually, he will see this and give you all the answers, but in case not keep bumping it. If I see him around, I'll direct him here.

Welcome btw!

Thankyou i would appreciate that! has anyone done this kind of thing btw, i have asked some other childminders and they all say it will be fine but i'm worried r.e any kind of accident and getting sued! not that im thinking she will but you have to cover all eventualitys don't you!

I'll link your thread to the staff room and see if anyone else can help. its a bit out of my depth tbh, but as they say, I know a man that can!

I am not sure actually - this seems like a nanny thing as it's in their house? I agree, where is nannynick?!

Sounds like being a nanny to me. I'm assuming you intend to continue childminding either on other days or after this arrangement ends? So personally, I would do a normal contract, but add that childcare may be in my home or the child's home. And all the normal permission forms etc. This will keep your options open in case you get a more long term request for childminding, you wouldn't have to wait for this arrangement to end and risk losing the new client(s).

I recommend you phone your insurance provider to check you're covered. I would imagine that if you're with NCMA they might say you're not covered for incidents in the child's home unless you fill out their new babysitting forms. Even though its nannying rather than babysitting IMO.

If you care for the child at the child's home, then you are classed as a nanny, not a childminder. If you are however a registered childminder, you must make it clear that you are not a childminder for this job and thus are the parent's employee. You should also contact your insurer for advice, as childminders insurance is not the same as nanny insurance, though they are very similar.
Your employer can use Simplified PAYE if paying less than than a certain amount per week/month, else will need to do full PAYE - much can be done on-line, and the HMRC New Employers Helpline can assist them in getting started. With just one employee it isn't that hard - though if they find it hard, they can use a payroll company.

Also, all childcare in England between 6pm and 2am is unregulated at present.

Sorry got to dash, babysitting tonight. Back later I expect.

Hi thanks for the replys..
Nannynick ok she has to use me as a childminder as this obviously means i am registered and thereofre she can use my reg no to get help towards the funding. I will read my insurance BUT i'm guessing as all my reg details etc are classed for my home then no i wouldn't be covered in anyone elses..
Could i not do a disclaimer that stated as the work is in her home that any accidents are not my responsibility?
I have had conflicting advice from other cm's but they all said they would do it as again like you said childcare between 6am and 2 is unregulated..what does this mean exactly? this is a temp 15 weeks minus holidays actually so prob less..there will be no more work..i guess if this was simple babysitting no paperwork would have to be filled out and that's that..hmm will see what you come back with! thanks again.

I don't think a parent can use your childminder registration detail, and you not actually provide 'childminding'. Not totally sure, but it could be a bit iffy. If you care for her child at your home, then it isn't a problem - as you are then childminding. But at the child's home - in my view you aren't working as a childminder.

Childcare provided at the child's own home between 6pm and 2am is unregulated in England, because the government did not want to regulate babysitters - imagine the paperwork involved if they did!

Could i not do a disclaimer that stated as the work is in her home that any accidents are not my responsibility?

I don't think you can, as you are the employee. It is nannying, not childminding.

How could you do it?

1. The parent does not claim any funding.
2. The parent employs you as a babysitter, the parent draws up the contract (could in theory be a verbal agreement).

If the parent has to claim funding - then be a childminder for the 2 hours (4pm to 6pm), caring for the child At Your Home, and extending it to 8pm. You do not need to be registered for Overnight Care unless you are caring for the child after 2am.

Anyone else have any ideas? Can a childminders registration be used at a different location, without informing Ofsted and going through re-registration!