Paying for nanny to be OFSTED registered

[Playgrind]

Hi,

I am fairly new to the world of employing a nanny, I have finally found a woman who seems great but is not OFSTED registered. She is returning to nannying aftet a long break. Issue is we rely on universal credit childcare payments, and it looks as if they only pay for registered nannies.

If we arrange this for her, any idea how long it is taking at the moment?

Thanks

Is she qualified and already has paediatric first aid training?

As an employer you will have to run payroll, deduct tax and pay for things like pension contributions and employers NI. I would check what universal credit will actually pay towards.

Are you aware what being ofsted registered entails and really means? As in ofsted inspections etc. The fact she must hold level 2 or above childcare qualification and first aid. That the latter will need to be renewed annually as well as the dbs.

Do nannies have to be ofsted registered? I thought in home childcare was not as regulated as childminders.

I find it difficult to believe a family relying on universal credit could afford a nanny and all that comes with employing one.

They don't have to be but op won't get uc for child care unless they are.

We paid for ours to be registered and she resigned today, less than 10 months later. Complete waste of money.

Uc pay for 80/85% of registered childcare up to a certain amount

can take up to 3mths to be registered tho some are quicker

bit like passports. Some take 2/3w. A lady I know is waiting after 12w

have uou worked out all costs @Playgrind with a nanny with obv a gross wage. Then employers ni plus pension and though you can do the tax alone many use a pay roll compamy

a cm may be a better bet financially as on uc. No disrespect meant

Errr... no don't do it. If she wants to be OFSTED registered registered should sort it out herself.

@De88 the op @Playgrind needs the nanny to be ofsted. She needs to pay for it

the nanny isn’t asking to be.

she needs to be if op wants to use /have costs of childcare via uc

being ofsted reg for the nanny is no benefit for them

employer pays costs for it

This^

@Blondeshavemorefun that was my point. It's a "hassle" and an ongoing one, the nanny will also have work to do should she want to have and want to keep that registration. The childminders I've had regarding themselves as professionals, have been proud to be ofsted registered and I can't imagine wanting to use one who hasn't done it, but I'm not a childminder. I just know it's hard work!

So if the nanny doesn't actually want to be ofsted registered she doesn't have to be and the parents should look elsewhere. Equally if the nanny wants to be ofsted registered, she should sort it out herself.

Employing a nanny has lots of costs you pay NI pensions sickness etc I don't see how you can do this and claim uc. As a provider I have to give the parent a receipt each month or week to say what I've recieved you won't have one covering these costs. You also have to pay upfront. If you use a childminder they are already registered and will happily give you a receipt for a final cost of between £4 and £10....depending on how upmarket your area.....most pay £5 to £6 that's less than the minimum wage you would pay a nanny before all the employment costs.

How can you fund a nanny on UC?

This. Unless there's a back story where you have a few children there is something wrong with the system when UC will cover the cost of a nanny.

I did this
she had to do an approved first aid course and some onlineexams
absolutely worth it

I think there is a maximum amount uc pay for childcare as well.....you couldn't claim an unlimited amount and get 85% back....the percentage differs too

Im guessing that if this is correct then £1k a month towards childcare if 2 kids and assuming is 2 kids if a nanny or else a cm would be much cheaper

then would be a huge help

Gosh, didnt expect this to be such a divisive topic 😂

Yes i have more than one child - would hardly call this a 'back story' though. Would prefer childminder but there is no CM available in my area.

Im aware of main OFSTED requirements thanks, and a rough idea of how much a nanny pay roll conpany would be. My new job is a fairly decent salary but stupidly low hours (hope to get more) so UC would cover most of the costs for 2 days.

As for the posters who are chomping on the bit to accuse me of benefit fraud or whatever - UC is more generous to working parents who rent. So will pay a up to a grand or so a month in childcare.

Thanks to all the posters who actually answered my question, i might suggest we split the enrolment cost as she has all the training, 1st aid etc

Honestly I wouldn’t ask her to split the cost

any good professional nanny should have first aid dbs and pli and a qualification

they don’t need to be ofsted registered

its for your benefit. You should pay the £103 cost

you could if really felt like it say that if the nanny leaves after 6mths she pays half the cost

It's pretty standard to pay for a nanny's registration if you want them to be registered because it primarily benefits the employer not the nanny. We paid for our nanny's because it enabled us to use childcare vouchers towards her.

I dont think anyone has been nasty just suggesting the full cost may not be covered. From parents I have that claim they won't pay unlimited hours if you work part time. They also ask for contracts etc.

Yes this?

OP said that UC will cover about 1k a month if childcare fees. Hadn't realised that !

But didn’t cost me much at all to get mine registered and do the course
and then made up in UC contributions

Very straightforward
i dod
i didn’t use full time
there isn’t much difference between nursery and nanny if more than one