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Cm Club - Really worried about notice period, is there anything i can do?

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LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 08:00

Mindee's mum has given notice she has told me they have drastically cut her hours so after next week she is walking out, she gets wftc as it's xmas won't she get it all in advance?

What can I say to make her understand I need the money just like she does and I can't afford for her to do this.

I've explained she signed a contract etc and I could take her to court but it's christmas and i'm broke so waiting months and months for the money and all the stress of court is not really what I want

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soapbox · 06/12/2007 08:08

Has she said that she won't pay you for the notice period or are you just worried that she won't?

I'd have a final invoice typed up and waiting for her when she next drops off/collects itemising how much she owes you up until the end of the notice period. You could say you are willing to take it by way of weekly post dated cheques, so she can spread the cost in the same way as the fees would have fallen had she still been working.

LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 08:18

She hasn't said much really, she is pretty upset by the whole thing, she doesn't know what she's going to do, she wants to do ft hours and doesn't want her ds to lose his space but her work are cutting her hours down to 10 hrs instead of ft with 1wk and a half's warning! I accept she is in a difficult position but at the end of the day she signed a contract with me to give me 4 weeks notice and she does get wftc to help with costs so i'm wondering if wftc will take her situation into account so I can get the money she owes.

Even if i can fill the space no-one is going to sign up this side of christmas because of having to pay me holiday pay. I feel i deserve my holiday pay from her as I have cared for her son for quite a while now and worked really hard.

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LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 08:19

The cheques are a good idea but what if she cancels them or really has not got the money?

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soapbox · 06/12/2007 08:26

If the notice is 4 weeks, then she must pay you four weeks.

I don't think you can force her to pay it in one lump sum though, she can pay it weekly, if her normal payment pattern was weekly.

soapbox · 06/12/2007 08:28

If the holiday pay falls outside the four weeks notice period, then she does not have to pay you for that. I presume though that the four weeks notice includes the holiday pay though?

LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 08:33

She'll have to pay me until Boxing day because she gave me notice yesterday (is that right?) I don't mind getting it weekly as long as i'm getting it. I get half pay for my holiday and full for BH's.

After next week she'll get no money at all because her hours will have dropped below 16 so no wftc, she has left her job so wont get IS so as far as I know will have absolutly no money.

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LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 08:35

No she'll have to pay me until 2nd jan, is that right?

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soapbox · 06/12/2007 08:37

Well that really is the difficulty isn't it - how can you force someone to settle a debt when they just don't actually have the money?

If she doesn't pay you then you will have to take her to the small claims court - but that costs £80 upfront to do. Even if you win in court, she may well be given the option to pay it back to you at £2 or £3 a week!

I'd definitely go with the final invoice option and just see what happens. She may manage to negotiate something with work? Does she have a DP - is there money coming into the house at all?

soapbox · 06/12/2007 08:38

Yes - 4 weeks is to the 2nd Jan.

LOONEYplayingachristmasTUNEy · 06/12/2007 09:17

LMG's, we chatted last night and I still feel the same, afraid she signed a contract and so as horrible as it is when you want to help, you need the money so you must make sure you get it. Do the final invoice thing and then if she says she can't/won't pay, say you HATE to have to say this blabla but you really cannot afford to suddenly drop this money, hence you having the 4 week notice period (it's her own fault for signing the type of contract she did at work). If you have to, mention small claims court but say obviously she'd end up having to pay the fees too and in the long run would be worse off.

I built a website for someone once who then filled their vacancies and decided they didn't need it and so didn't want to pay - they ended up paying it with interest and fees!!!

Sorry you are having all this stress atm

me23 · 06/12/2007 09:24

Hi hun, Surely there must be rules in place over how much notice her employers have to give to cut her hours?

is there not a legal requirement? one and half weeks doesn't sound fair at all.

wonder if anyone knows anyting about emplyment law on here?

LOONEYplayingachristmasTUNEy · 06/12/2007 09:34

From what LMG's said to me - she signed a contract which DOES allow this. I know it's rubbish for her but I don't see why LMG's should suffer as a result.

GloriaInEleusis · 06/12/2007 09:51

Lovemygirls, do you you need the money right now or do you just want to ensure you get it in the end? This woman is out of work and has no money, so it's really going to be difficult (impossible actually) for her to pay you. You are right of course. She owes it to you. But, at the end of the day, it is not possible for her to give you something she doesn't have.

So, what if you cut her a bit of slack but still demanding full payment in the end. What I'm thinking is ask her for half the fees for eight weeks running instead of full fees for 4 weeks running. That way you have made an effort to be flexible, but you are still asking for full payment. And, if it does end up in court, you can demonstrate that you did make an effort to be flexible.

I do see your point that she signed the contract and she owes it to you. But I just don't think she sounds like she will be able to do it. So, you might need to consider what sacrifice you are willing to settle for. If you go in hard and say no no no. I want it all and you don't budge on anything, she might just take a hike and you won't get anything.

How much money are we talking about? Will you really be better off if you have to go to court, take time off of childminding which will in turn effect other families, and so on.

Also, in the meantime, you say no one will want to pay your holiday cover. That's probably true, but if you need more money you could surely offer a babysitting service at this very busy time of year. We dropped the kids off at our old childminder a few weeks agao while we did some Christmas shopping. This was great because of course you can't buy gifts that are supposed to be from Santa while the kids are with you.

me23 · 06/12/2007 09:54

ahh didn't realise it was stated in her contract.

I hope wftc can help, as legally she owes you the money, get her to call them and explain!
TALK TO YOU SOON HUN XX

GloriaInEleusis · 06/12/2007 12:56

(((((more hugs)))))

GloriaInEleusis · 06/12/2007 12:58

oops, wrong thread.

LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 14:26

GloriaInEleusis - I have been advertising babysitting and ad-hoc care and have had no calls for either of them.

I do need the money as soon as poss really otherwise I will go well into my overdraught and be paying interest so me giving her slack means me getting into debt which is unfair really but I do see what you are saying and I probably will try to give her extra time to pay me. It's just a big blow, I can't honestly see me getting the money and i'm in no position to be this broke.

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GloriaInEleusis · 06/12/2007 16:21

I do sympathise withyou, Lovemygirls. Mind if I ask where you are?

LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 17:34

I'm not far from birmingham.

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GloriaInEleusis · 06/12/2007 18:26

Oh, there's your problem. Come on down to sunny London and jack your prices up.

GloriaInEleusis · 06/12/2007 18:29

hmmm.... where not far from brum? My husband works in Knowle and he always wants me to drive up to go out with him on a Fri or Sat. But I don't like going to dinner with the kids... but if some nearby babysat, I could probably work something out.

I think all the childminders on here shoul put the first part of their post codes in their profile so the rest of us can call upon you for babysitting.

LoveMyGirls · 06/12/2007 21:07

Do you have an email address? I could email you, I don't want to give details on here.

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