Childminders - would you want to know this?

[2GinOrNot2Gin]

Looking for opinions on how to handle this situation.

My son goes to a CM 2 days a week.
He was due to go today but woke up in the night with a temp of 39. I kept him home, he refused to eat/drink all morning so as advised by the GP I booked a covid test, awaiting the result.

A family member uses the same CM she text me asking why my son wasn't there today, I said he had a temp so getting covid test but I think it's tonsillitis so not too worried. She replied and said ahhh my son had a slight temp last week sent him anyway she didn't notice. So I replied and said he's unwell with a covid symptom and you sent him that's against the rules. She said I work full time I don't have time for rules it's all ridiculous he's probably just teething. She then said he went one day coughed once and she sent him home it's pathetic.

I'm so annoyed, I get kids get temps a lot and I get its frustrating but to send a child knowing they have a temp currently is not on is it?

Should I tell the CM about this or keep my nose out?

I think you're maybe over thinking it?
Children do get temperatures teething. All the time

Its very important we know about the child's health in the last 48 hours even outside COVID if she had given medication to mask a tempreture and the child had deteriorated needing emergency care before parents arrived a proper medical history is vital not having it could endanger a child's life.
During covid we all need to follow guidence even if we suspect a cause ive talked to all my parents and explained that should I catch anything that gives me symptoms I then have to shut sending everyone home for at least 2 days(typical test turn around) if there child then gets it becouse ive passed it on I then have to send them home again for at least 2 days assuming they test and get negative and so it goes on...if my family get it from me I shut again etc etc so in the interests of us all its best to stay home and test.
I have parents who are doctors and they absolutely agree that this is the safest thing for everyone they have seen covid on the wards and one is a GP they are all saying test everytime including for rashes and tummy ache....more common symptoms in children.

@Twistered

I think you're maybe over thinking it? Children do get temperatures teething. All the time

This is why I'm asking opinions. I know children get ill a lot and it's a pain I was dreading mine getting temps because he used to get them a lot but luckily for us this has been the first temp since covid!

@jannier I agree with what you're saying, I always text the CM if my son is ill to check he's ok to come. She's always been fantastic and she rarely requests he stays home. My son has a medical condition and we had someone before who would constantly make me fetch him for something that is common for him. This one has never sent him home.

I don't want to seem spiteful but the person I'm talking about it a really selfish person who only cares about herself. The CM is really on it with her covid procedures and is doing her best to keep everyone safe and protect her own family & business. But people who don't work within the guidance are just putting people at risk. The CMs son is vulnerable and I just think to send a child to her knowing they have a temp is unfair on everyone.

But prepared to be told I'm being OTT

One of my mindees has now had 4 tests, since the start of covid hes 4. One occasion was positive but luckily I had not been in contact with him and his parents were wise enough to test without being asked it turned out mum was asymptomatic but positive. We can't be too careful. Luckily now the turn around is normally a day rather than a week. None of us can be sure if the cause of a tempreture and many dont realise a continuous cough includes 3 bouts in 24 hours not coughing non stop.
Id give her the heads up at least then she may take extra measures

As a minder I'd appreciate a heads up. And the minder would have noticed and checked temperature most likely, I know I would!!

Some parents do think we send kids home just for giggles or we fancy an easy day I think, they forget that we have a responsibility in the eyfs to safeguard the health of all the children in the setting. (Can you tell I've had this very conversation this week!)

Personally, I hate sending kids home bit the fact is, kids get ill sometimes.

I would be REALLY angry if I found out a parent had knowingly sent a child in with COVID symptoms. I would like to be told.

Part of the reason we quit our CM is that she didn't tell up about other kids illnesses - all of the mindees and her own child got chickenpox and I only found out when DD got spots 3 weeks in to Social isolation and I mentioned it to her- and she is happy to take kids with covid symptoms

@olderthanyouthink
I went to change a babies nappy once to discover cp covered in calamine supposedly thec13 year old niece must have put it on without telling anyone. Its amazing what people do. I advise other cms not to take children with cp even if others have already had it. My daughter had it 3 times.
I'm amazed at schools taking back children who have been sick before 48 hours or thoes who had a temperature this morning but are okay now for some figures and end result money is more important

As a childminder I would be really cross to find out that a parent had sent a child to my setting who is displaying symptoms of COVID she has been extremely selfish not only putting the childminder and her family at risk but also the health of every other child in the setting.

I’d be inclined to ask yourself is your child only poorly with a temperature as she sent her child in when poorly?

The trouble is if you say anything to the childminder the other parent will know it was you that told her. Maybe you could just say to the childminder that you don’t think the other mum is being very truthful in regards to telling her about symptoms and she should be extra vigilant for signs of illness in the child

I too would be really angry to discover that a parent had knowingly sent there child into me with covid symptoms as it’s pure selfishness and just shows complete disregard for myself, my family and the other families I care for. They would be given a written warning that if they ever sent their child into me again poorly again and lie about it, I would terminated there contract with immediate affect. Some parents can’t be bothered to take time off to care for there own child and except the childminder to do it, forgetting when the childminder then has to close as they got the bug ( which is always teething even in children who have all there teeth) they then have no childcare.

Suprised cm didn’t take child’s temp

The ones I know are the the moment

But yes wrong. Very wrong to send child with a temp in current situation

@Blondeshavemorefun
I expect child was dosed with calpol very common for tepretures to appear just around 4 hours from arrival

Good point @jannier

She written a post on her Facebook page basically warning people that if they deceive her and don't follow the rules they will be served notice 😬
I haven't said anything yet.. but I'm assuming she knows!

If shes FB friends it could be shes seen posts of people posting the tier rules as well.

She may be on here

She may. I think I'll speak to her at pick up today anyway. I'd want to know if someone was showing a complete lack of respect for me and my business.