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Early Years Foundation Stage - Anyone doing training?

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Mum2Luke · 18/10/2007 22:34

Have just finished the 2nd part of my EYFS training and the general feeling is we cms are getting fed up with the likes of OFSTED forcing us childminders to do more paperwork.

We look after the children, take them to tots groups and do activities when time allows, we feed them and give them all the love they need so why more? We are not paid to do observations and assessments, nursery nurses are and if they wanted that the parents would use them, but they choose us because we have a home from home environment and family atmosphere.

Tonight they were saying OFSTED may mark us down if we don't make files, take endless photos and do obs. I look after a 20 month old and a 4yr old, I am losing the baby as his mum is having a baby and not returning to work and the 4 yr old is at school all day. I've not had a phone call for minding for months, I'm going to have to give up and look for part-time work. I have an NVQ Level 3 but cannot fill places as I am in competition with 3 private nurseries in close proximity (within 1 mile) to my house. I want to do all this but when I've no kids in the day I don't go to tots as there's no point.
Am going to look for a job in a creche/nursery as a bank nursery nurse that fits in with my own 5 yr old child.

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ThePrisoner · 19/10/2007 19:32

Oh, how I agree ... where shall I start ...


vixma · 19/10/2007 19:43

I have to agree, Ofsted are a pain in the butt as the people observe you in a false enviroment as when they come in i feel that paper work and targets are more important than the childcare than you deliver. More paperwork seems to be in place han focusing on caring on the children you should be caring for. I work in a school and as a childminder and the time filling in paperwork seriously interfers with the time I have to spend with the kids which is really annoying. I wish they could come up with an assessment which does not interfere with the care given to the children.


vixma · 19/10/2007 19:44

Just to also explain, my spelling is appauling due to being on a laptop so, sorry.


bloodsuckingLOONEY · 19/10/2007 19:52

Totally agree and what I don't understand is the photo bit for obs - what if parents don't sign to let you?? - I've had this before!!!

[waves at TP as I miss her and often wonder where she's got to]


ThePrisoner · 19/10/2007 20:22

[waves back at looney]


Megsdaughter · 19/10/2007 20:31

THE PRISONER where *HAVE you been !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ThePrisoner · 19/10/2007 20:37

... doing my paperwork ...


Megsdaughter · 19/10/2007 20:47

Are you still alive in thereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

ThePrisoner · 19/10/2007 21:10

... probably not!

I've been reading through my EYFS pack, have attended a briefing session and, although I know that this new system is (technically) better as it draws everything together ... well ... I just totally and utterly despair of what I am now being asked to do.

I have prided myself on being a good childminder for years, and have dutifully produced everything we have been asked to do, and more. I do daily diaries, always chat to parents at the end of the day, do monthly newsletters, give parents photos ... but this isn't enough for the new system!

I started making a list of how much of my own "free" time I spend on childminding-related work (bills, newsletters, accounts, committee meetings, mentoring, planning, courses and training, general paperwork, extra paperwork for network). It has really got me down. None of it makes me a better childminder.

I still come onto MN every day, but really don't have the enthusiasm to be enthusiastic-enough to post!


bloodsuckingLOONEY · 19/10/2007 21:21

Oh TP, it's got silly hasn't it!!! I've just booked myself onto the briefing session on Tuesday night, it's my week off but I've got to go sometime! Not done any training yet - dreading it! Do you think we should start a petition??? I don't know one person who actually thinks all of this is a good thing and makes us better childminders! I'm not sure if you've heard my news but as a result, I'm looking at getting an assistant for mid next year but I'm very worried about how much this new EYFS stuff will entail and that it may put potential assistants off?

{{{ hugs }}} as you sound very fed up!


Megsdaughter · 19/10/2007 21:22

Im dreading it, I intend to retire in a few yeasr (its shosh by the way) but I am wondering if that day may come quicker.

I love Childminding always have but Ofsted will close more and more of us down by the paperwork.

When will they realise this?

When we have no Childminder left!


Katymac · 19/10/2007 21:25

EYFS won't be in until sept next year - so you should be OK Looney


hennipenni · 19/10/2007 21:28

I've been to a briefing session and came back thinking about yet more paperwork, how you have to show what outcomes are gained through the activities that we do. I have got myself in a tizz about all the new headings/outcomes blah de blah de blah. The only positive thing that came out of it to me is that we actually do most of it ourselves anyway it just needs tweeking a little when being recorded. We did quite a bit on planning using photos etc but not alot about observations.


bloodsuckingLOONEY · 19/10/2007 21:35

I know katy but I may want to have assistant for a few months which by my calcs means be here when it all first starts!


Katymac · 19/10/2007 21:37

WHen is your next inspection due?

Mine is Nov 08 & I am well scared as I should have 2 months of 'stuff' by then


bloodsuckingLOONEY · 19/10/2007 21:40

Well around Oct 08 I THINK!


Katymac · 19/10/2007 22:02

All they will expect at that stage is an overview & a committment to attend (or have attended) courses

You know me tho' - I stress about everything (also I think OFSTED will mark me harshly because of getting Outstanding last time iyswim)


bloodsuckingLOONEY · 19/10/2007 22:05

I always stress too I do understand though, it must be great to get an outstanding but then you don't want to loose it!


Katymac · 19/10/2007 22:06

They have said that even if I am the same as I was last time - I will only get 'good'.

In order to get O/S again I will have to be better than I was in all areas - that is so scarey


bloodsuckingLOONEY · 19/10/2007 22:08

I totally disagree with them. You should be outstanding based on your setting etc. and not based on what you were doing before, seems so unfair


hennipenni · 19/10/2007 22:15

Katy, one of our minders (network-very good, always up to midnight doing paperwork etc etc) had a trial inspection for the new framework, she got a good whereas she got an outstanding in her "proper" inspection. She said it would be bloody hardwork to get an outstanding.


Megsdaughter · 19/10/2007 22:18

my Inspector told me it didnt matter how good I was I wouldnt get a Outstanding from her, as she had nevr given one and nevr would, she believed there was alwasy something I could improve, and If she gave a Outstanding I wouldnt strive for that.!!!!!!


bloodsuckingLOONEY · 19/10/2007 22:20

Megd - you're not exactly gonna strive for it when told you'll never get it though!!!


hennipenni · 19/10/2007 22:20

Perhaps we oughht to start a petition asking that inspectors all work to the same guidelines, not to their individual whims.


Katymac · 19/10/2007 22:21

My previous inspector refused to inspect me, becasue she said she wouldn't be allowed to give me O/S

She asked her boss to inspect me (apparently)

It is so inconsistant and applied badly

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