CM CLUB:Oh knowledgable ones..help me out here???

[MissInvisible]

my friend is thinking of having/trying for a baby, they live with her parents(buying house together), if friend go's back to work, can friends mum(grnadma) become her 'nanny' in the official sense?, she would be doing same had they bought seperate houses, but they will all live in same house, so could grandma be paid for being childs nanny??Thanks guys.

If she is paid, she needs to be registered as far as I know.

she would register officaily, but as she would be a nanny not a cm would she have to under go any training??
she not into fdoing that at almost 60, but wants to help daughter out, however this would mean her giving up her 3 part time jobs?

Sorry, don't know! Bump for you in the hope that someone more knowledgeable comes along.

She would have to do a short course (20 + hrs I think?) plus her first aid & have a CRB

I think there is nanny info on the www.ncma.org.uk

she wouldnt need to be registered as she would be caring for a member of her own family.
she wouldnt HAVE to do any training but first aid would always be good to have.

listen to katy,she is the original "wise one" !!

The NCMA stuff is fairly useless

But she only needs to register if the mum wants to claim tax credits - if she doesn't then there isn't an issue (iyswim)

Tho' I would still reccommend First aid

Oi

I'm not a wise one - I'm a know-it-all - there is a difference you know

Knew you'd know Katymac.

Hijack - how are your nursery plans? Any news?

No, not really

I have planning permission - but not the piece of paper to say I have PP
The architect is changing the plans
The co-op lady says there are real issues with setting up as a co-op & it's all really confusing
I can't get the solicitor to sort out the lease
& I can't get my existing deputy to 'be' a deputy

So not really (sorry about the hijack)

Sorry to hear you're stuck again Katymac. I was hoping for better news.

Me too

But you inspired me to start a thread about it (mind you no-one has read it )

Thanks for asking

Why would a grandparent register to care for a grandchild?

Care Standards Act 2000:
in 79A(3) it says a person who is the parent or relative of a child does not act as a childminder when looking after that child.

Childcare Act 2006: 18(4)
?Childcare? does not include care provided for a child by?
(a) a parent or step-parent of the child;
(b) a person with parental responsibility for the child;
(c) a relative of the child;

Therefore, grandma certainly does not need to register as a childminder. Can they be paid to care for their grandchild... yes, I don't see why not... parent would be employer, grandparent employee.

Tax credits wise - No, they won't pay out to a grandparent, so no grandma can't register as a Home Childcarer (Nanny) under the Ofsted Childcare Register to enable the child's mother to claim childcare element of Working Tax Credit. See WTC5, page 6

thats what i needed nannynick, the daughter wanted to be able to claim tax credits to help pay her mum as mum would have to leave work and friends job isnt all that well paid..so basically cos mum is grnadma, she cant get paid as nanny?

Correct, the Childcare Element of Working Tax Credit can not be used for childcare provided by a relative. Your friend will need to look at for a Registered Childminder, or Home Childcarer (Nanny), or look at nurseries.

It is worth your friend reading WTC5, as it explains more about how much can be claimed for childcare. Currently if awarded maximum claim percentage, then for one child it would be £140 per week.

For those interested, if the grandparent was a registered childminder caring for minded children in addition to the grandchild, tax credits still could NOT be claimed by the parents of the grandchild - as care is being provided by a relative.

THANKYOU chick(i cant really call you chick can i?..anyway!..), such a shame, but at least i can tell her now..thanks everyone.