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Nanny issues

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BlueberryIsland · 26/05/2020 08:38

I work as a nanny for a family of 5. 2 parents and 3 children. I was taken on originally to take care of the children but over time the jobs and duties expected of me became more. I always did a general clean up of the areas from when I started but the cleaning requirements became more and more.

Recently I was folding away clean clothes in the utility room. There was a wash in the machine that finished. I was clearing away the load of clean dry clothes to find space to hang the wet clothes. Mother boss was working from home and comes in and sees a load a washed load sitting in the machine and she starts ranting at me because I didn't do it ASAP. She just made me feel so small. I hated it. I wanted to walk that day to see if she could do better with her own children and her own home and clothes.

There's other aspects of the job that I don't like. I had a contract with hours set out but over time the parents started messing me around coming home later. Putting exercise in the gym and social dinners and meetings after work ahead of coming home to their own children in the evening time and ahead of me. The longest day I worked was from 8am to 10.30pm at night. I didn't get a penny over time. There's been other abuses on my time like that too.

Since this pandemic started, one of the parents work from home. The parent continues to work out from the house as an essential worker. They've told me from the start that because one parent is essential, than I'm essential. They were following all of the guidelines. So I was happy to continue to work. I also got some lovely hours and since March there was a better work life balance. Starting in the mornings at 11 and finishing for 6pm. It was lovely and badly needed. I finally found time to start looking after me.

I feel lately they might be slipping back into their old ways with me finishing later. Also there's more and more people coming and going to the house now:
Cleaners x 3 times a week
Home teacher every morning for about 3 hours. When this teacher is working, my focus is on a disabled child.

Playdates
Hairdresser

I don't feel comfortable any more because there's no social distancing happening and there's more human traffic coming and going to the house.

Also I have another issue maybe I might get advice on please.

The parents booked me, to move in for a week at the end of June. This was before the virus emerged. So the parents can take two of their children away on a home grown holiday and leave me at home in their home with their disabled child. Essentially working for 3 weeks solid before I get a day off. Normal week, followed by 7 nights in their home, followed by another normal week. Then I will get time off. They will top up my wage but it certainly won't be the time and hall according to law. I feel if I was to work like that in a factory, I would probably come out with 700 or 800 pounds a week. My weekly pay is 400 pounds. With the week they have planned, I might get another 200 pounds on top of what I usually get.

I presumed because of the virus, the plans would be off now. I got a call last night reminding me of that week where they wish to continue with their plans. This fills me with unease really. They will be staying in a self catering cottage so they won't be in a hotel. I feel uneasy because what if they get sick while they are away and they are required to stay in isolation leaving me with their child in their house for more than the agreed 7 nights. What if I become ill? I don't know if I can trust them that they would care enough about me if I was to get sick. I don't know if they would come home to me. Or what if my family become ill and need my help? It's almost as if she thinks my family is an old mother so she doesn't count because she's not a small child.

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BlueberryIsland · 26/05/2020 10:33

They have shown elements of greed and selfishness over the past few years but the latest one of continuing with their summer plans despite the threat of the virus thrumps it all.

I don't want to put myself on the firing line for picking up this virus any more working for these people.

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2kool4skool · 26/05/2020 13:28

Time to resign?

underneaththeash · 26/05/2020 14:05

Our nannies have always had babysitting in their contract, but we always asked and given plenty of notice and paid extra.

That's a lot of people coming into their house!

Are they sure that they'll be going away still? Most companies cannot open until 4th July, but I don't think they'd have any more chance of catching COVID in a holiday home than here. There won't be any restaurants open and pools and other indoor spaces will still be shut. But, yes, if you've agreed to do it then you should.

Having said all that though, you're clearly not happy, so it's either time to ask for a pay rise and find another job.

TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 26/05/2020 14:49

What are your contracted number of hours and is £400 net or gross?

Ultimately if you're unhappy you should plan to leave.

LaurieFairyCake · 26/05/2020 14:55

So you're currently working 35 hours a week for £400?

That's a reasonable salary.

What's in your contract?

LST · 26/05/2020 14:56

Jesus. I couldn't keep my mouth shut. You deserve a medal. She sounds like a complete cowbag and they are both taking the piss! I have no advice at all, I am sorry. I just really feel for you. I wouldn't feel comfortable living in for a week now either.

starsinyourpies · 26/05/2020 14:59

Time to resign or propose changes to contract to include clear rates of pay for overtime including overnights.

I am so grateful to our nanny that I always say yes to pretty much anything she asks for and am grateful she is not afraid to speak up when something isn't clear, I would encourage you to do the same.

BlueberryIsland · 26/05/2020 17:02

I'm getting a flat rate pay. It was agreed before hand that I would be working on average 30 hours a week. Some weeks I would be required to work more and other weeks less and it should balance out like that. That did work but slowly and surely they started to rely on me more and more and I ended up finishing late and late. I hate more work weeks tipping towards 60 hours than I ever had a 30 hour week. The are falling back into their old ways now and my work weeks are increasing.

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LovingLola · 26/05/2020 17:04

You have posted multiple times before about this family.
And you get the same advice every time
It’s up to you to make the decision and leave

KattyJack · 27/05/2020 17:28

They sound awful! I feel so sorry for you!
I love my nanny family and they would never ever treat me like this - I’m paid for every extra Over time I do!
I think either speak to them about it , and be firm about what you want - or walk and find a new family. It will be easy to find a new family so don’t stay with your current family out of that worry!!!
Hopefully it gets better for you xx

Juanmorebeer · 27/05/2020 17:35

OP you need to leave. They sound absolutely horrendous.

We're in the middle of a national crisis where childcare is more in demand than it has ever been.

I don't think you are well paid at all actually, please do say what area you are in working for this amount?

Because where I am (not in the south!) nannies cost £10-13 per hour and that was BEFORE Covid.

You can get more money and have a better life.

Hand in your notice seriously. There are thousands of families looking for nannies!

BlueberryIsland · 27/05/2020 23:08

Thanks for the replies. I couldn't face going in today. I really hate working for that family. I hate their attitude towards me as if I'm some sort of a servant to clean up their tables. It's worse now with a parent or sometimes two working from home. The mother likes to make a mess of the kitchen during her lunch, walk away, and come back and complain about her own mess, almost as if it's my job to clean up after her and she's an adult. Afraid that her disabled child isn't enough work for me.

I can't handle working there any more. There's far too much human traffic coming and going and there's no social distancing happening. They are not going to care about me if I get sick.

I was happy to help for that week in the summer time but that was booked well before that virus emerged. I'm not happy and I'm not comfortable continuing on with that week.

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Destroyedpeople · 27/05/2020 23:13

I am sure you could find better people to work for and quite quickly.

Juanmorebeer · 27/05/2020 23:39

So OP. Come on, you're not happy. You need to leave. Do you need us to help write your resignation? Have you ever left a job before? If so let us know and we can help you.

I'm not saying you should just do it in writing by the way, you need to have a conversation first, but you can put your feelings and the facts into writing as needed. Your employers are taking rhe absolute piss.

ProseccoBubbleFantasies · 28/05/2020 00:18

You don't have teen DC do you?

MissMarks · 28/05/2020 00:25

Write everything down. Start looking for other jobs and if it gets really bad I would leave and sue for constructive dismissal

Pickles89 · 28/05/2020 01:42

Don't put up with this shit OP. Dump them.

2kool4skool · 28/05/2020 08:21

Suck it up or quit. They are your options. Far better than messing about saying you are off sick and stringing it out.

sickohsickofthisshit · 29/05/2020 19:44

I think you're getting laid a very reasonable wage

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/05/2020 07:58

You aren’t happy. Fair enough. Sounds a shit job. They take the piss

But you allow them to

Why do you stay ?

And June. Unlikely they will go away. Can’t stay at other properties at the moment

Emrae · 08/06/2020 20:56

Aka I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I have worked for many families and have never been treated like this, I wouldn’t put up with for a minute. Can I ask why you didn’t ask for your correct pay when you did extra hours? There’s so many families looking for nannies right now, give your notice and bounce.

2tired2function · 12/06/2020 04:26

Just quit, this is bonkers! It's also bonkers that you're not getting an hourly wage, I'm in the US and it's quite common for the nannies to get guaranteed hours - ours get 40 hours per week, whether or not we need her for those hours she gets paid and she gets paid by the hour, so if we ask her to work 60, she gets paid 60.

It's a position that I think can be quite open to abuse for employers, get yourself a more sensible employer and a better contract. Also 400 for 35 hours a week seems very low? Ours is paid $30/hour looking after 2 children with childcare and very light cleaning related only to children's play.

Skyla2005 · 11/08/2020 21:31

You need to ask for a meeting. You need to tell them overtime will be charged per hour for any hrs over 30 a week and you need to keep a track and give them the bill at the end of each week. Don’t let theM put all this extra work on you it’s not fair. They are only doing it cause your not saying anything and they will keep going. If they don’t agree then look for another job You shouldn’t have agreed to having the disabled child for 3 weeks solid that’s a massive responsibility

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