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Temp nanny for 4 weeks do I need to set up PAYE?

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clemmy0m · 03/01/2020 21:12

Hi,

I'm hoping someone can help point me in the right direction I'm finding it all rather confusing.

I am looking to employ a temporary nanny/mothers help for a few hours a week for 3-4weeks whilst I'm recovering from my c-section and need someone to help with preschool drop offs and pick ups etc.

I understand that due to the type of work a nanny is doing they are normally classed as employed and the employer would pay the tax etc. however, it seems like rather a lot to set up everything for such a short period of time. I have currently found two nannies both are lovely, one is self employed as she only does temporary work the other is not.

Before I make a decision, can someone explain if and how the process normally works and if it's worth it for such a short duration?

Thank you!

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nannynick · 04/01/2020 12:56

This sounds like a temp role which is unlikely to be anything more than a month. So I would go with the nanny who does lots of temp roles, who provides you with a service. It will mean they can stop at any point, so you are not guaranteed the help.

I don't think there is any official length of time for when something is considered to be a permanent role. Some payroll providers like Zest Payroll will do very short term pay runs, so it can be done as an employer:employee relationship.

If you were planning on having someone do lots of temp work for you, so a month and then a gap of a couple of months, then work another month, then that could be seen as being more employment than self employment and there are payroll providers like NannyPaye who could run payroll for you on that basis, with their admin fee being used up in blocks, so you don't pay admin fee when there is no work being done.

Tootletum · 11/03/2020 08:59

I'm sue you've already found someone but I think for a month booking it'd be better to go with a nanny agency. The self employed nanny may fall foul of IR35 which remains her problem in micro businesses, but personally I just pay over the odds when I want temps to avoid any such issues. Tinies is good. If you do hire a perm nanny, nannytax was very good and sorted out payroll etc for me. About £300 a year plus about £100 insurance.

Cora1942 · 11/03/2020 13:24

Disagree with Tootletum , who is probably an agency owner.
Many nannies such as myself work as a Sole Trader for temporary work.
We say when we are available, invoice the client, pay our own tax and NI via self-assessment.
There are no agency fees involved.

Blondeshavemorefun · 14/03/2020 09:17

If the nanny is self employed. Ask for see proof

Then yes she will invoice you and you will pay her a gross amount and she will pay the tax and ni

To cover your self you could call the tax office and have in writing that rhe nanny is self employed and she has agreed to a gross wage which she will pay the tax and ni our of it

I was a temp nanny for years alongside being a maternity nurse

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