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Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

Absolutely terrified of childcare costs. Is this a decent alternative or am I making a deal with the devil?

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greenPandas · 06/11/2019 18:41

Recently had my ds and have been looking into the price of childcare in London. I realised that I would have to fork out roughly £1000 a month to have him in nursery full-time while I work.

Definitely cannot afford to do this. But I really cannot afford to take time off work either. I have few people gunning for my job and being constantly absent would give management the opportunity to put me on the backbench.

I spoke to a friend who told me about a new company that covers your child care for the year and spreads the cost. You pay them back over a longer period of time. I contacted them and found out that I could pay £200 pounds a month over 3 years rather than the £900 (think of it like car financing).

It would help massively because it means an extra £700 with every pay check. But I am a little nervous, because it is essentially a loan.

Although I do need help with childcare, I'm not too sure if financing is the best option. It's a relatively new company and haven't met many people who have used them.

What do you guys think? What would you do if you were in my shoes? Should I go for it, or just bear the costs.

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whatisheupto · 06/11/2019 18:43

What is the interest rate?

AgnesGrundy · 06/11/2019 18:45

You'll need at least 3 years of childcare per child, so either you'll be paying for 9 years for one child (not including paying for after school and holiday care) or you'll be paying full fees in year two plus the payments you owe from year 1...

18 years of payments if you have 2 children 3 years apart...

Wildorchidz · 06/11/2019 18:45

How does it work? I’m not sure I understand?

You pay them £200 per month and they pay the nursery £900 per month ?

Celebelly · 06/11/2019 18:48

I guess it's basically a loan or credit agreement. But presumably you will need three years or so of childcare, so you'll be paying for a long time?

Celebelly · 06/11/2019 18:49

Also might you just be better off actually getting a loan instead? Have you checked the terms and APR and how much you would pay with a decent loan? Have a look on MoneySavingExpert.

What about a childminder?

whatisheupto · 06/11/2019 18:49

Are you paying childcare alone or do you have a partner sharing the cost?

RandomMess · 06/11/2019 18:51

Do you rent or have a mortgage?

Mintjulia · 06/11/2019 18:54

£200 a month over three years = £7,200. for the first year of care.

Given that you think cost of care will be £12,000 for the year, something doesn't add up.

And that's before you get to needing a second year of childcare.

addictedtotheflats · 06/11/2019 18:54

Would an Au Pair be an option? I had them growing up and loved them. Obviously you have to house and feed them but its much cheaper than nursery. If I had the space i would most definitely consider it

RandomMess · 06/11/2019 18:59

Au-pairs do not do full time childcare!!! That would be a nanny...

Cornishclio · 06/11/2019 19:01

That sounds like a loan and not a route I would take. Childminders are sometimes cheaper so have you explored that? You can go for the tax free childcare scheme which will see your nursery payments boosted by 20% or maybe your employer does childcare vouchers. Can you adjust your budget in other areas.

Did you not consider this before having a baby? How have you coped on maternity leave with a reduced income? It seems a lot but you will get 30 free hours when he is 3. I recommend you wait to have a 2nd.

greenPandas · 06/11/2019 19:04

Yes, they pay the nursery upfront and I pay them the money back over time.

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greenPandas · 06/11/2019 19:04

How much do you think I would have to pay for an au pair? Am I also responsible for their upkeep?

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Wildorchidz · 06/11/2019 19:07

You cannot use an au pair for full time childcare.

meow1989 · 06/11/2019 19:08

Have you factored in the 20% for the new childcare vouchers scheme?

MrsMaiselsMuff · 06/11/2019 19:08

What is the APR on the loan?

It strikes me as a dreadful idea.

greenPandas · 06/11/2019 19:09

@whatisheupto I'll probably cover the costs alone. Might have some minor contributions from family, but will bear most of it

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greenPandas · 06/11/2019 19:12

@MrsMaiselsMuff around 3.4 percent.

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Babamamananarama · 06/11/2019 19:14

Why do you see childcare as a cost you have to bear on your own? It should be split between both parents if both are working.

The loan sounds like a terrible idea, trapping you into a finance agreement for years after you've had the benefit. It would affect your credit rating and mortgage affordability too.

Is there an option for going part time? And/or doing a childcare swap with friends? I used to do that with an NCT friend when my first was little; we'd each look after both littlies for one day a week, and we also paid for 2 days with a childminder, meaning we were covered for 3 days. My partner and I each worked a 4 day week and looked after her one day each, and our childcare costs were relatively low.

reefedsail · 06/11/2019 19:15

What will you do after the first year?

Firefly111 · 06/11/2019 19:15

Does this include the government 20%?

greenPandas · 06/11/2019 19:19

@meow1989 Yes, I have included the government's 20%. But I live and work near central London, so the prices here are atrocious.

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greenPandas · 06/11/2019 19:24

@reefedsail

Not to sure to be honest... If I were to take the loan for the first year, I was hoping the extra money saved via working would be more than enough to pay for the next year. The issue is that my ds wasn't really planned, so I didn't have enough time to put some money in the kitty.

I'm fairly new to all this. Am I being naive, here?

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RicStar · 06/11/2019 19:25

£900 per month is very cheap for a London nursery fulltime baby place - even allowing for the 20% government contribution. The maths as you described do not add up and I find it hard to believe anyone would offer this kind of high risk unsecured loan for 3.4% return. All sounds dubious to me.

LizzieMacQueen · 06/11/2019 19:29

If you work for a large enough employer can you access a workplace loan?