London after-school nanny rates when nanny brings own child

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If you are an after school nanny and take your one child with you , what are your hourly rates?

Parents with experience of employing a nanny with own child in London for after school care what do you pay?

Also why is the Nanny profession so different to everything else whereby the employee wants their net pay to be the contracted rate not the gross?? I don't get it!

Context ; will be contracting 15 hours a week (5 days) with holiday on top

It doesn’t matter if the nanny wants net, you always offer the salary in gross terms. Where we are in suburbs of London, after school care would be around 10-12 with their own child but you need to consider extra expenses of another child being there and liabilities for any breakages etc

I'd do gross. It's the nanny's business if she has student loans or other income affecting her tax situation. I think it's also common to average earnings out over the year so the nanny gets the same weekly wage and can budget.
In terms of earnings, a friend is a nanny with own child and gets about £17-18 ph gross, I think. She works in Chelsea and is well educated with lots of experience and glowing references. I'm out in Sutton and when we looked into employing a part-time nanny, the expected rates were mostly 10-12net.

Thank you. the tax code is 1250L so I don't think she will pay tax?

If you only contract 15h/week term-time only + possibly then agree for a few extra hours in the holidays, then it'll probably be less than 12.5k/year (provided she doesn't find another part-time job).

If you do a standard after school + holiday contract of 15h term time and 50h in the holidays, it'll probably add up to over 20k a year even with a lower rate for bringing own child.

Always do gross

After school only is usually higher as it’s 3/4hrs and hard to find anrorhr job to fit alongside it

Around £15 gross is fair

You must agree a gross rate. She could get another job in the day or at weekend and use all her tax code. Plus she may have student loans etc.
There is usually a higher rate for only 3 hours per day. But if she is a nanny with own child you would expect a reduction for that. So I would look for the normal nanny gross rate in your area.
You are not offering anything extra with holiday. It's a statutory requirement to offer 5.6 weeks holiday to all employees.

I nanny in central NW London and do a pick up for 2 children alongside my full time job with a baby. So when I have all 3 (3.30-6.30) every day, my rate goes down so that everyone benefits. If a nanny is bringing her own child along, it's essentially the same concept, she's just not being paid to look after her own child. It boils down to what she can do during that time...how old are all the children? Can she effectively split her time and attention? Is she preparing meals or helping with homework and if so is that affected by having her own child with her?

And the gross vs. net discussion depends on the hours in my experience. For example if she's earning less than the required amount to be taxed, she can ask for net. It's only when tax is involved (which I believe is when you earn over £220 a week - don't quote me on that!) that gross needs to be discussed!

A family close to me are looking for a nanny 12 hours a week, Term time only, 2 kids aged 4. Only want to pay £10 net ph or £12 gross per hour, no care needed in holidays so no pay then, only statutory holiday pay.

I, personally, think this is a ridiculously low wage and they are really struggling to recruit

South east London

17ph gross for my after school nanny (no child of her own); extra hours in holidays. 5 hours per day (average) in term time so still a decent amount of hours and we are flexible about moving the pre school hours around as needed.

Always do gross; point them in the direction of listen to the tax man if they want to work out their own net pay

Depends how many other children and what responsibilities. I'd also say if you have two kids to look after and only giving her 3-4 hrs a day then £15 would be ok gross. If she worked more hours I would drop it a bit.

I work 20 hours wrap around and get paid £16 gross per hour in St Albans, Herts

I’m in south east london and paid £12 ph for nanny with own child to do one full day a week. When my oldest started school the nanny also did school and nursery pick up 3 afternoons (one of the days she also had the younger one during the day). I think I got a good deal as she was very experienced and lovely nanny, it was only initially a short term arrangement and I couldn’t afford to pay any more. She worked for another family too and I think they paid the same or slightly less for two school pick ups.

People round here are paying £10-12 ph for non professional nannies or students. Koru kids is £13 ph.

Also I guess it may depend how old the nanny’s child is.