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[littlemissmonday]

How much would as a childminder would you expect for a childminding a small toddler for 11hours.
I know everyone has different prices but just curious as to what is the average 'norm'

£3.19 an hour here

£6 an hour here, no meals or nappies
Money well spent

I’ve been researching and local to me £4-£5 p/h is the norm inc food etc
Some charge less per hour but then charge for food on top eg £3.50/£3.75 p/h then £5 for food.
This is rural East Mids

My toddler is £5/hr (any hours between 7am-6pm) and £2 for all food/drink that day.

And we're in Kent, so although not London, it's a generally expensive area

you are not being overcharged in London. there is a supply and demand issue, and also OBVIOUSLY it is a lot more expensive for a childminders to provide this service in London so clearly they need to charge more

I'm in central London and would pay approximately £60 for 11 hours. Clearly it's very variable as to exactly where you are in central London.

£60 in SE plus meals

Just south of edinburgh, 4.75ph

Thanks everyone really great to know the different rates.

Wha you charge should be based on an accurate assessment of the costs of running the business, plus the need to return a realistic level of profitability as, in the case of a self-employed sole trader, profit amounts to your wages.

Yes, what other people charge should be one consideration, but not the be all and end all of the matter. Also bear in mind that the per-hour headline rates quoted throughout this thread do not represent like for like comparisons. They will hide all manner of variation in quality, terms and conditions, extra charges, etc.

No offence, but it drives me nuts that’s CMs are still being encouraged to run their business in such unbusinesslike fashion. There has been a lot of effort made to 'professionalise' the industry, but we are still getting poor training and advice from the very organisations that are supposed to very supporting childcare providers.

Itsaboojum makes a good point that we don’t know what is included in the prices quoted above. Food, nappies, outings, activities, holidays, flexibility may or may not be included in the price, which will alter the price.
I do think it is helpful to know what other childcare providers are charging though. A new minder tried to set up in our town and went 50p an hour higher than the next highest priced minder. She couldn’t get children. However I wouldn’t say the cheapest is the best either.
In our town we range between £2.95 (which I think is madness) and 4.50. However for an 11 hour day, I would add a bit on to my normal hourly rate as some of the hours go outside my normal available hours (8-5), so would probably charge £50 for the day (4ph for 9 hours and £7ph for the extra two hours).

When I childminded in the daytime I was 4.50 ph, that hourly rate was for care only. It did not include food of any sort. Parents brought snacks and lunch boxes. Now I just take to school and pick up. It’s £10 before school and £10 after. Still no food. Purely time.

I used to pay between £3.50 and £4 when mine were little, and they are in their 20s now. We are in the Midlands.
I do agree with the pp who said you cant take someone on at one price and then suddenly whack up your charges shortly afterwards though.

I would sit and do a detailed breakdown of costs / expenses and what you feel you need to earn (get someone with a bit more experience to help you - our LA had people that would help with business support, or perhaps PACEY or a local CM support group?), then work out what you need to charge per hour (allowing for voids and spaces). Once you've worked that out, then ask around other local CMers - your 'competition'

If you then realise you need to put your costs up a fair bit, then I think you need to be fair to those you are with, and explain you got the costs wrong, and you will obviously honour what you signed forr the next 6 months (or whatever you decide) and totally understand if the families then wish to go elsewhere, but let them know you will have to start charging £4.20ph (or whatever the figure works out at) from 1st Sept this year (or whenever you decide).
If you've done comparisons, then most likely people will stay with you, but they will feel they have been given the chance to change if they want to.

Leicestershire here and £3.25 an hour