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Hi I have an opportunity to go back to work full time but I'd need to arrange child care. I don't want to waste potential childminders time if it's unaffordable.

So I have a 3yr old in nursery 5 mornings a week and a 1yr old. I'd need either 3 full days care for baby and 3half days care for 3year old or 5 full days care for baby and no care for 3year old.

Help get me rough guide price wise and wether a childminder or nanny is best option. I'm on the outskirts of Glasgow if that makes a difference. Thank you in advance

3 days care by a nanny...

Hard to know but if costed based on a 10 hour day, so 30 hours per week at £12 gross per hour (may or may not be realistic, you would need to check local nanny adverts), then cost to employer including employers NI and employers pension contribution (April 2019 figure), is a little over £20,500. You would then have some activity costs on top, mileage payments (if nanny uses their car to transport your children), payroll admin, so cost could be around £22,000
That is care for both children, three days per week, 10 hour days. 3yr old going to pre-school makes no difference to cost of a nanny as nanny is still caring for younger child plus is on call for the 3yr old should pre-school be closed, illness etc.

www.gfis.org.uk/ gives details of childminders but does not seem to give costs.

Childminder will probably be somewhere in the region of £5 an hour.

Wow nanny is well out my price range thank you for that info.

Wow childminder seems exceptionally cheap is that because they can have a number of children at once?

To many wow's 🤦🏻‍♀️

Childminder is per child. Nanny is both together, it’s not a straight comparison.

Areas vary greatly for cm fees some may be £3 and some £10 depends on local demands, most are about £5.

I am a child minder I would charge around 5 pound per child a hour or if under 2 a little more

In terms of your eldest as he would take up a space it is common for cm's to charge whilst they are at nursery if they do holiday cover oor take and collect so it may be cheaper to have him 3 days at nursery, but ring around because not all do charge the same way.

Why do you charge ‘a little more’ for under 2s?

I'm in the south east and in our area childminders are between £4-5/hr per child, with a sibling discount.

I’m East Midlands and my childminder is £3.60 an hour per child.

A nanny tends to be more viable if you have three or more children, or if you have working hours that other forms of care do not cover. It is also 1:1 care, not group care, so the costs are higher but you have more control.

I struggled to find any job adverts for nannies in Scotland. Maybe the time of year or may be that there is not much demand.

Glasgow Family Information Service may be able to give you a rough idea of childminder fees if you give them a call. Otherwise they will be able to provide a list of local childminders who you can call and ask about availability and costs. Some will charge whilst 3yr old is at pre-school/nursery and others will not, each childminder runs their business as they like.

Im a CM in the south east and charge £6-6.50/hr & no sibling discount

Georgie

I know some CMs have a higher charge for under 2s in order to maintain a degree of equivalence with nurseries. Nurseries have pricing points around 2 years because that’s a critical age for staffing ratios.

It’s far from common practice, but seems to be on the rise since the increase in funded hours.

Georgie - At a sustainability meeting for nurseries and childminders to give strategies for meeting the shortfall between funding rates and the economic rate for care the economist sent by the LA to sell it to us suggested amongst other things, like taking in parents ironing and telling staff they were all being paid the same minimum wage regardless of their qualification or job description. that children under 2 should be charged more to make up the difference, so if you had 10 3 year old spaces and are underpaid 50p an hour by funding you up the baby rate by 50p an hour.
The cm's all said no that's not fair on parents but most nurseries have done this meaning their are loads of babies now looking for cm spaces.

Average of £4 an hour per child in West Midlands.

I’m a childminder to the south west of Glasgow so nearish. In my area the average hourly cost is £4 per hour or £20 per half day and £40 for a full day. What you would pay would also depend on nursery holiday cover and whether you would want that...