Nanny share/Pay

[SusieW34]

Hi Everyone,

Wondered if there was any nannys/employers who could me their advice/opinion.
I have been a private nanny for 5 years with the same family B4 G8.
At some point last year I had agreed to have another child G8 (family friend & also same school) for some morning school runs and ad/hoc days during half terms.
We discussed an amount I'd be paid hourly on top of my usual pay and this will be paid cash in hand.
Then from I'd say September last year I started to have the other child B3 (sibling to the G8) ad/hoc days while my original B4 was at nursery. Payment wasn't discussed however i thought the same would imply as before with the sibling.
Have now been told that they see fit that I dont get paid for the extra care of these two children because of their ages and with my G4 being at nursery.
Also may I had i hadnt been paid for the adhoc days since mid last year hence why it was mentioned and only now i have been told I won't be getting paid.
Thoughts please?

Unfortunately, the cash in hand aspect is illegal, and everything should be going through the books. Did they discuss a reduction in your hours as the kids were both in school, or are you expected to still be performing duties around the house? It's crap they offered you money and rescinded- I'm assuming they see it as like for like as your usual child is in school- but I also assume you need to be available in case there is an issue? Do you want to keep working for them?

Understand the cash in hand aspect. Was only suppose to be ad/hoc "babbysitting"
No reduction in hours or pay. Same hours and same pay regardless of youngest being at nursery. Doing Nursery duties during day, cooking, etc.
Still on call for either child while at school too.
I'd like to stay with them as ive made a real connection with the kids and would be gutted to leave. But if it's not resolved to a fair manor then it may be the only option.

Do you have a contract? Most nanny contract say you are employed to care for children of Mr and Mrs Employer and an subsequent children they may have.
You do not have to look after children from other families. When you were asked to look after the extra children you should have had a contract with each family. It a nanny share and they are both your employers. Ring Acas and get legal advice from your insurance company.
You should not have been paid cash in hand - illegal.
If yoy want to continue as a nanny share for both families i would insist on new contacts with both families.
Nanny share usually get more than average family amount as dealing with two lots of patents, holiday etc.
Your first family need to pay you when child at nursery unless you are not expected to be available if child sick, snow day etc.
It all seems a mess , i would look for another job to be honest.

Thanks for you input. Taking all opinions and advice on board. Having a meeting with my employers end of the week to discuss so will be saying all of this!

Also yes I have a contract with original family but not extra family. So will be doing that with them too!

If the younger child is now at nursery but hours haven't been reduced then having a different child during those hours isn't unreasonable. I think you need a new agreement and work contract entirely because their needs have changed. I personally would suggest you get your cv in order etc because this could go either way - I don't know anyone who pays for a full time nanny with kids in school, I would not be surprised if they take this opportunity to reduce hours or give notice and get an au pair

Thank you for the advice. I will be prepared whichever the outcome!
Happy to have a discussion regarding hours/pay. Because both in half/full day care. It was just never brought up or discussed just told.

Do you mean B4 not G4... B4 in FamilyA (B4+G8) is going to nursery and you have B4 from FamilyB (originally B3+G8) only at times when FamilyA B4 is at nursery?

So it's not unreasonable but it should have all been discussed before it actually happened. Extra pay for FamilyB G8 certainly, and it should be via payroll.

Is it really only on a few occasions? Since September how many times has it happened... 3? or are we talking lots?