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Are we expecting too much of AP?

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anotherdamnname · 15/11/2018 21:14

Our au pair is sweet and the dcs like her but she just can't seem to stay on top of her responsibilities. I can't tell if we're asking an unfair amount (she's our first AP) or she is just incapable/lazy. She certainly lacks any common sense.

She has to be on duty 8-9am: get 1 dc dressed and walk to school. Then again 3-7pm: pick 1 dc up from school, help with reading, collect other dc (different school), oversee reading and homework, cook simple tea and clear up, get them into bath in time for us getting home, help them get their things ready for next day. Plus the dcs washing but no other housework.

Every day something slips. She struggles to be on duty on time, so we have to call her. Homework gets left at home not put back in bags, or not done. Washing gets done but not put away, or only some things get washed. Things get broken and she doesn't tell us. She let one dc tramp dog poo into the house and left me to clean the shoes. She never tidies except if asked directly, I.e. please put x away. We rarely use our babysitting hours but planned to tonight - I came home early to find dc still up (late), AP was on the phone, but she still hadn't found time to do their reading with them.

We've tried so many ways to help her:
A detailed guidebook we went through at the beginning, have been through again and highlighted areas where she wasn't quite getting it
Several friendly chats about where things were slipping - mostly being on time and laundry.
A week later a cross chat where I made it clear I was annoyed that I had to spend the weekend washing uniforms and bedding (amongst other things)
A one page summary of responsibilities so it's all in one place
A fridge whiteboard with the main tasks (for all of us so it's not singling her out) to tick off daily. Yesterday nothing was ticked off. Sometimes she ticks things without having done them or only half done.

They are not huge things in themselves but they do have big impacts (e.g. missing a train so ending up late for work, DCs having to wear dirty uniform to school, dcs going to bed late so tired in the morning), and it constantly puts us in the position of having to remind her/nag her, and getting irritated.

She's not with us for much longer and it is not really worth looking for someone else early, but can anyone suggest ways to give her (another) kick up the bum? Or do we just need to hugely lower expectations and fill the gaps ourselves?

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MinecraftMother · 17/11/2018 22:33

@mumto2babyboys
Absolute bullshit.

You live in your world of checklists and ticking boxes and we'll live in the real world. 🙄

Attitudes like yours, throwing around the phrase safe guarding, makes a mockery of real safety issues.

OP we've had APs for years - it is too much but you know that. Good luck with the change, I hope it works out.

ToesInWater · 18/11/2018 08:25

You need a nanny, that's not reasonable for an au pair.

blackteasplease · 18/11/2018 22:26

It sounds reasonable if you take out the washing and having all the uniform ready. I think those are jobs foe the parents, in particular checking everything is ready for the next day.

OVienna · 20/11/2018 14:05

YANBU about the being late - absolutely fundamental.

These are issues with basic manners and would drive me mental:

Things get broken and she doesn't tell us. She let one dc tramp dog poo into the house and left me to clean the shoes.

You can't behave like that in someone else's home (i.e. nothing to do with her being an au pair, just a considerate person) or in a house share.

Also, she shouldn't be on her phone during working hours when there's stuff to do. She could certainly have been reading with your DC rather than being on the phone.

That said: I have never known an au pair who could do all of those things you mention, all of the time. I would forget about the washing and also make a point of checking their bags yourself. I would draw a distinction between helping with homework and ensuring the children are doing something towards it (on the understanding you will take over/check it) as opposed to running around, watching TV etc. The first is probably not realistic, the second is fine. It's not a long period of time.

Simple meals - fine. Trying to wash and supervise homework and do the meals, if I have that right, is not going to happen.

StarlightIntheNight · 12/01/2019 13:53

It sounds reasonable, but perhaps you need to stay on top of her for a few days until she gets it. For example, teach her the short cuts, tidy up while food is cooking, throw the laundry in while the kids are in the the bath etc.

CarrieDS · 27/03/2019 17:51

"She has to be on duty 8-9am: get 1 dc dressed and walk to school. Then again 3-7pm: pick 1 dc up from school, help with reading, collect other dc (different school), oversee reading and homework, cook simple tea and clear up, get them into bath in time for us getting home, help them get their things ready for next day. Plus the dcs washing but no other housework" ..... To me this seems totally normal, straight forward and not too much at all. Picking kids up from school, homework and tea, bath time 3-7pm... yes, normal! I'm assuming she can do laundry in her own time during the week between 9 and 3pm however? In which case she has tones of free time.

Romax · 27/03/2019 18:02

It seems reasonable to me OP

You mention bed and board. Any payment?

marcopront · 27/03/2019 18:10

This is a zombie thread.

I would be very surprised if the au pair is still working for the OP.

mamaoffourdc · 27/03/2019 18:14

My youngest 2 love having a bath together! They beg to have one! Love getting the barbies out and play in the water! 2 girls 9 1/2 and nearly 8

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