1st time Nanny employer with some questions please

[hayleybayley]

I am hoping to employ one of my children's carers from nursery as a nanny from September as their nursery is closing down. I live in Hertfordshire and was wondering if anyone could tell me roughly what I should be paying her for a 4 day week 8am-6pm (I am planning on doing everything above board so gross figures would be helpful). Also, does anyone know where I could get hold of an employment contract without having to pay to download?
Thanks

www.nannyjob.co.uk/employment/employmentcontract.htm

CAT me and I'll send you mine for free.

I don't really know the going rate for live-out. What does she make now? Has she been a nanny before? Are you providing more persk (like phone, car, etc.)?

Suppose somewhere between £6 and £8 per hour gross? You will of course need to add more expenses like food, cost of activities, travel, reasonable spending money, etc.

If you will be using an agency like NannyTax to do your tax and NI returns they will have a standard contract you can use. Local agencies will let you have some idea of the market rates, and Nannytax also publish a pay survey- but this covers the whole country and I'm not sure it's that useful to be honest.

Another way to get a feel for local pay rates, is to act as if you were a nanny looking for work and look at what other employers are offering. NannySelect, NannyJob, GreatCare and Gumtree can all be useful in looking for pay rate details - though not all advertisers will give rate of pay in adverts, and where they do give a figure, a lot still give Net figure, rather than gross.

Also, what was the nursery nurse on previously... they may have been on say £13,000 per annum at nursery.

I would anticipate gross rate of pay to be around the £8 per hour point, though certainly could be up to £2 in either direction, depending on local market situation.

i'm about to employ my first nanny/mothers help

she's 20 and has 3 years experience of nursery work plus just under a year of nannying. will comeplete nvq later this year

paying £270 a week net for 8am-5pm, 5 days a week, which equates to just under £18k a year. we're in the south-east

We have done the maths and have decided that we are going to offer her £14k a year gross - I know that this is quite a bit more than she was on at the nursery so I'm hoping she'll accept that. We can't really afford to pay more as we also have to pay for my 3 year old's place at nursery on top - sometimes I'm not quite sure why I go to work!!

hayleybaley...

good luck.... tehre is no way i would even consider working 4 days for 14k gross though.... im 70+ miles from london!

Good luck if your new nanny accepts, but she may soon relaise she could get more £ elsewhere

I've always asked the nanny how much she would like - and then worked out if I can afford it.
Although the local agency rate in my area was £8 net per hour (so about £400net per 50 hour week) I met a lot of local nannys and only 1 was actually earning that much..most were on £200 net per week! And at least one was £200 gross. Especially those in their first nanny (rather than nursery) jobs.
One of our nannys was previously a nursery nurse and she did find it difficult entertaining more than one age group at a time, also didn't grasp the fact that taking holiday at short notice was not a good idea (she was used to being a replaceable team member). So it might be worth discussing the differences between the nursery nurse and nanny job descriptions in some detail (wish I had done this anyway)
Good luck.