CM CLUB:advice please,sensitive

[PinkChick]

was just about to post about minde who ahs today and keeps coming with 'bumps' and 'bruises', she is only toddling so hadnt thought too much into it but she has a big bruise on face today with no explanation this morn?..okay not really major..but...she hasnt stopped crying all morning, runs when i try to pick her up(normally v cuddly), but after 20 mins of screaming/cryin, and me saying xxx come on thats enough, i just said in a more raised voice(not shouting at her though) xxx thats enough now..and as i turned round she cowerd from me, literally ducked and put hands up..she is less than 2.dont know what to think and i have managed to get her on my knee now but she is scrwaming

This sounds like an awful situation but I think you know what you have to do,

Oh no, that's not good The bruise alone wouldn't have worried me but her reaction to you telling her off makes me think she gets a lot bigger telling off at home. I'd certainly make a record of it in the accident etc book if you have one. You could also do what I did about my baby mindee yesterday (have had thread deleted btw) and phone someone for advice. I spoke to OFSTED first who told me to contact Childcare Social Services and they put a note on my record that I'd called with concern (but no names given). I didn't actually call the Childcare Social Services, I phoned a person in my Early Years team who deals with advice for things like this and she said I didn't need to but is looking into it a bit more for me etc.

Difficult isn't it

Aw PinkChick thats awful .
I've got a flow chart from my Child Protection team at the Local Authority. It clearly states to firstly document your concerns, sign and date, then ring the Safeguarding Children Team who will log concerns and take up the matter. Also ring NCMA and OFSTED to log with them. It might be worthwhile talking through with a member of your CM Network firstly, for support. HTH

Doesn't sound good to me at all, hon. I think you need to ring both NCMA and Ofsted to log your concerns, and if you have a support network co-ordinator then phone as well for some advice?

Sounds like something needs to be done, sorry for you and the little one.

Please tell me you remembered to get the parents to sign that she arrived with a bruise. This is terrible, but like others have said, you know the drill. Hope you are OK, you must feel dreadful.xx

How terrible that she reacted like that. Not a childminder so no idea what you SHOULD do, but agree that you cannot do NOTHING... Poor thing...

you really need to make a record of this.....do you have an accident book?

you need to note she had it when she arrived, shape,size etc, and get parents to sign. (dont make a big thing of it to them)

you need to report this if its happening alot.

Its better to be safe than sorry love. I know its awful, and it makes you feel so unloyal, but you have to think of little one. It could be something completely innocent, but from the way you describe her flinching, I think its looking to be not good.

whats the rest of her body like? hows her routine? any changes in sleep/eating?

Take it from someone whos been on the receiving end as a child. Unfort.shes showing all the signs my lovely. good luck. This is really awful for you.

Poor little mite! How awful! If you haven't logged this this morning, I guess just get the parents to sign in the evening? I think you have to protect yourself too.

Thats reallyawful for you to have to deal with I would definitely report to cover your own back. Are you surethere is no other explanation has she maybe got older siblings that might have given her a whack? Although that is still unnacceptable I hope you getit sorted

Oh poor little thing! Just play it down when getting parents to sign existing injuries form so they don't get funny and refuse to sign it. Please report it hun, you and I both know you have to. x
Have you had her long? She will soon realise you are kind and gentle, just keep on as you are with her. Do you have the nspcc handbook has signs and symptoms in and is very helpful and easy to digest.

hi, just managed to get a min while they are playing.
she has no sibling snad normally i say oh looka t that bump/bruise what ahve you been doing? and parents say she did xyz, have never suspected anything more sinister as my dd has a million bruises on her legs! and know they get them all time esp when toddling, but today it wasnt until dad left and i brushed her fringe out of her eyes i saw it. now it could be that he has just forgot to say anything cos i didnt bring it up or notice it this a.m?, but the cowering really worried me..she kept running off and thinking back to a few weeks ago, she was hyseterical again and i was upstairs(toilet) and she went and hid, literally closed??the door on her self when she was behind it and screamed/cried?????????????

her mum is absolutely LOVELY, they are not together but dad sees mindee through the week from what i can gather and every weekend.
i DO think this bruise is something she has done with a book/toy etc as shes very wobbling and un-co ordinated whilst walking (not long started) but the flinching really worried me, but other than that, i have NO worries?, she has no amrks on her body, nor have i noticed anything unusual before.
i have filled out an ncma 'existing injuries' form and will get him to sign tonight, i dont make deal out of these things i normally say to the children ooh what have you been doing, i will say to dad that in my recent inspection i was reminded anything like that has be logged so I am coverd...sigh...cant get c.care co ordinator at min.
shes been better this afty, calmed down walking to school, but hasnt had sleep and normally gos 12-1, so am haggerd now!
just been cuddling her and shh'ing/rocking her all day

oh and dad is lovely too, forgot to say that, not really on his wavelengh, but wouldnt say that is a bad thing about hiim.

How did it go PC did he sign with no problems?

sorry posted this on wrong thread a min ago!

hiya everyone, thanks for advice yesterday, was working till 10pm so just getting on pc now.
i actually rang mum, just chatting about her LO's day as she wouldnt be seeing her until sun as dad has her weekends, so letting her know about her poorly bum and that i had bathed her etc etc, then i said quite blatently, oh xxx what has xxx done to her head, im a bt worried baout the size of the bruise and didnt notice until xx has left this morn?..mu said mindee had been playing with nappy off as hger bum v.sore(nappyrash) and she wee'd.they ahve wooden flooring, mindee steps into it, skids across room and wack straight onto her face, she said she had told dad to mention it as it looked so bad and was gunna give him a call to shout at him because 'god knows what people must think!'..i told her i had had to fill out a 'existing injuries' form to cover myself incase anyone thought she had done it with me and she said absolutely right, no prob, daad will sihgn when he collects.ok, then....she said to me that mindee has been getting lots of bumps last week or so as she was into climbing on everything and pulling things down from above her.she said she had a sort of table cloth with ornament on top, on a radiator cover which was head hight on mindee, mindee had now taken to pulling the cloth OFF meaning anything on it would come too, she said she frightend the life out of mindee that week when she pulled at it and mum shouted 'xxx, No, thats going to fall' and mindee ducked!...never stopped her doing it , so mum has now moved offending items but seems that that is where the cowering will have come from???
i still have it logged, mentioned it to dad too and he was all for my forms being filled in and understood why, signed it no probs..so am going to keep and eye(like i would be anyway), i REALLY dont doubt these particular parents, they are both extre,ely loveing and caring, but certain things do strike a chord like this so will be on guard with all of mindes and these form in future!