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This is shocking-CM with 15 children in her care

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saltire · 27/02/2007 09:46

Don't know if this has been posted or not, but this story was in the Scotsman today
here

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dmo · 27/02/2007 09:51

thats shocking

HuwEdwards · 27/02/2007 09:51

I find it quite shocking that the only recourse taken was to cancel her registration as a CM - I mean all those parents whose children were ill-cared for and from whom she exhorted money...allegedly to provide a quality service - that can't be right!

saltire · 27/02/2007 10:16

Perhaps a big fine as well might have been a good idea.

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nailpolish · 27/02/2007 10:19

Greedy Bitch

firejumper · 27/02/2007 10:21

Not being funny and defending her in anyway the woman wants shooting, but didnt the parents realise there was that many children there, my parents know how many kids I have? Its shosha by the way, had mjor PC problems and lost everything had to reregister everything aaagghhhhhhh

weepootleflump · 27/02/2007 10:22

she should've been charged for abuse - those poor kids strapped in car-seats too small for them

saltire · 27/02/2007 10:31

shosha, perhaps the parents did know but didn't care? Unfortunately there are parents (not many) out there who will think that as long as they are getting childcare they won't care how many mindees the CM has. That's not to say that they were aware of how she was treating them though.

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smeeinit · 27/02/2007 10:45

OMG that is dreadfull
how the hell did she get away with it for so long? and how did the parents not know?
theres a cm near me that has a 7 seater full of children and 3 or 4 others running behind the car on way to and from school,she has the music so loud in her car,(ok its nursery rhymes) that you can hear her coming a mile off and shes been seen with a fag hanging out of her gob while driving the kids about!
p**ses me off so much that parents use her.aslong as people keep putting their children in her care shes getting away with it.
really pees me off even more at the mo as im struggling to find mindees and shes over run with them.

saltire · 27/02/2007 10:48

smee, you should report her that's awful. It's childminders like this that give the rest of us a bad name

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Aloha · 27/02/2007 10:49

I'd report her too.

quietmouse · 27/02/2007 10:52

that is shocking

But I do think the parents should take some responsiblity. Need not one of those parents think anything strange about the fact that there were that many children in her care??

surely the children must have been unhappy to go there.

HuwEdwards · 27/02/2007 10:55

The report does say that she was careful to hide all this from the parents. I know it may sound unbelievable, but this is obviously one conniving woman.

nailpolish · 27/02/2007 10:56

i wonder if she left them alone in the house while on school runs

quietmouse · 27/02/2007 10:56

I can't believe none of the parents went further than her front door though. I would think as soon as you entered her home it would be obvious how many children were there, wouldn't it?

smeeinit · 27/02/2007 10:58

i may have already reported her??!!!

nailpolish · 27/02/2007 11:00

god its not far from me either

i am wondering if i recognise her name or if its my imagination

expatinscotland · 27/02/2007 11:03

I saw that this morning.

Poor children!

expatinscotland · 27/02/2007 11:04

But like quietmouse pointed out, did parents not go in there and see all the children, or even hear them?

nailpolish · 27/02/2007 11:05

wouldnt you think your child would tell you things?

when i had a cm i also used to go in and have a coffee with her when i collected dd

things started to go pearshaped and dd used to tell me strange things, cm used to try to cover it up and lied.

firejumper · 27/02/2007 11:08

Dont you greet each child by name when they arrive didnt the parents realise she didnt know there names, sorry but the parents had to know something wasnt right, dosnt matter how much she hid it, they had to know something, was she cheaper than everybody else about, was that why they sent their children there?

And I hope the tax man now catches up with her cos sure as damn she never decalered her income, hopefully she will be jailed for tax fraud.

lynie · 27/02/2007 14:03

To be honest nothing surprises me. I know of childminders everything above board but they don't let parents into their homes just into the hallway, don't parents wonder if they're hiding something,I know I would.

castlesintheair · 27/02/2007 14:09

I was looking at a website today which lists childminders by postcode and one of them in my area states that she has 15 in her care and has vacancies Kind of put me off the whole thing a bit.

Theartistformelyknownashosha · 27/02/2007 14:17

Castles that wouldnt be 15 at one time honey,

At one time is usually

3 under 5 only 1 under 1
3 between 5 and 8
and up to 4 eight and over

its sounda as if the CM in question has lots of part timers.

prettybird · 27/02/2007 14:28

My child minder, who I trusted totally, never let me beyond the hallway - but the main children's playroom was just off the hallway. She said it was 'cos she didn't have permission from other parents or something like that.

She also had quite a few children - but that was becasue her mum and MIL worked there full time, so she was able to be registered for more kids. SHe also had/has an enrormous house and enormous garden.

Part of the reason I could trust her so implicityl was a) ds was alwys happy to go there and b) she is our neighborur, literally the hiouse next door, so that we can see that all the kids always go in and out happily - and we can also see them when they are playing in the back garden.

Ds is now 6 and in Primnary 2, so it is 18 months since he was last there - but he still talks happily about his time with her, and desparately wants to play with her two boys (one of whom is only a few years older than ds, but the other is now a young man - but who had a real soft spot for ds)

SO oyuo can't just automtcially distrust someone who doesn't let you in further than the hall. But this case doesn sound strange - surely the older "speaking" kids would have made commnets that should have rung alarm bells with their parents?

dmo · 27/02/2007 14:30

castle i have 17 children per week all part time and i have monday mornings off

childminders are meant to be a homely place my parents always come into the play room and some even sit down for a minute or two

just coming to the front door would indicate they have something to hide, i know one cm who does this she says its so the parents dont hang around but i disagree

not to know the childs names is very shocking but somedays i do forget my own name depends on the day i have had

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