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where do nannies start

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daisy26 · 13/02/2007 14:28

Hi am doing a course where i will become a nanny and im going to do an approved scheme also. When you get a job how do you start and where?I use to work in nurseries, so i know what forms I need for accidents etc. Can nannies pay for their tax if this wud be easier, so u be self emlpoyed. I also need on advice where to get publi liability insurance.I have a a lady who wants to take me on asap, I didn't realize she was on benefits so you have to through the whole approved thing, I do know some parents have got nannies, who get benefits and dnt pay tax, surely this sin't allowe and they will get caught eventually.

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Ladymuck · 13/02/2007 14:39

Well I had assumed that most courses would cover this. What type of course are you doing?

You could start as a mother's help, or in a role where you don't have sole charge. Somae nannies go straight in with sole charge roles, but for older children.

In general you don't have the option to choose to be self-employed, though sometime very temp jobs such as maternity nurses are. The approved scheme isn't just for people on working family tax credits (not strictly "benefits"), but many of us can get vouchers form our employers for approved childcareso it is a worthwhile investment.

Although there are a few nannies on this site you might get more help on www.nannyjob.co.uk

Nanny912 · 13/02/2007 15:45

The best course I did was NVQ's level 2 and 3 as I worked in a nursery and got a wage and have been working in childcare for 12 years now.
Make sure ou get a first aid course done too and after completion of your course you will need a CRB done.

good luck

nannynick · 13/02/2007 19:07

I started by not being a nanny! However I did start working with children in my early teens (babysitting and youth groups) thus gaining practical experience of working with children of varying ages. Training courses are great for some theory and most full-time courses will involve several days per week within various childcare settings. Your work in nurseries will have given you some experience of children, but not of working on your own. Nannying is very different to working in a nursery, and many new nannies find it very lonely - as it is generally just you and the children.

Nannies can not be self-employed, if working for one, or two families. If working for more than 2 families - HMRC may access each job on it's own merits to determine employment status... but it is unlikely in my view that you will meet requirements for being self-employed.

Public Liability insurance is available from Morton Michel , who provide specialist insurance to the childcare sector in the UK. If you drive and will use your car to transport children you will need Class 1 Business Insurance on your car - contact your current car insurance provider.

Approval process can take several months, so expect there to be some delay.

daisy26 · 13/02/2007 19:17

yeh i know u will be alone so its different as i didn't wanna do this before,but its experience, so families have to pay for nannies taxes then? i just sorta wanna be my own boss, as i think at times ure better off, well u havent got anyone else on ure case whilst u work

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daisy26 · 13/02/2007 22:52

i know ure not ure own boss, and it can be a lonely job. Obviously if I try it out and see how it goes and get experience then I can decide wether it was for me, but I would give it quite a few years,im going to reg becoming a childminder also. I would take them to where other children are etc, differ places, obv you are paid to do what the parents want provided, the best care for their child/ren. People on my back watching my everymove, yes is what I mean, as iv'e had tp put up with not very nice people in the past that I worked with. I know that can happen wherever u go, as long as u work hard, are good with the child/ren, care for them then it's ok. I am a genuine nice person

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nannynick · 13/02/2007 23:19

Be careful being a registered childminder and a nanny at the same time. You need to know the rules very well, so that you do not fall foul of thinking that you are acting in one capacity, when you are in fact doing the other.
Childminders are self-employed, thus their own boss... though are regulated, so need to obey certain rules. Please read other threads on this board about Childminding, before taking the plunge to be a childminder - as there are many childminders on this board who have posted a lot of advice which is useful to those just starting out. Best bit of advice I would give for a childminder starting out is: Research, Research, Research. Make sure you know that there is demand for your service. Know where to find your customers, how much they expect to pay and what they expect for their money.

Insurance wise, if you nanny and childmind then you will need to discuss with insurer - I expect you need a different policy for each role, as the policies may cover different things.

If in England (expect you are) then keep aware of what is happening regarding the Ofsted Childcare Register, as that will affect you as a childminder and as a nanny.

daisy26 · 14/02/2007 11:25

yeh I know what u mean. Im going to do the ICP whilst I can but Im not going to do both jobs at the same time, just ill have the icp done and out of the way, well how long is it valid for? Im going to try and start nannying first. Thankyou for your advice I understand what you mean. I know childminding takes allot to research on etc, which I will do, but I wldn't do both tho

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