CM CLUB:mindee's & personal cleanliness?..my predicament!

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not going into detail personally!

what would you do if a mindee comes sometimes ok, sometimes very grubby(clothes) and in all the time theyve come never had clean finger nails>..thick black dirt under them and constantly hands in mouth?

In case it turns out to be a case of neglect, I would note down dates and circumstances, whether it was mentioned to parents etc. in a private notebook, just in case. You will need this if ever you feel you need to contact social services 'cos they need facts rather than just your feelings about a matter. If it's just a case of different hygiene standards at home I would keep a nailbrush at the sink and show all the children how to use it. Don't know about the clothes though - how bad is it?

Agree with the nailbrush, infact agree with everything amphion says.

Maybe take photos of the hands so if you need evidence to show what you are talking about.

How old is the mindee?

One of the boys in DS class in infants used to get dressed himself and would nearly always be in dirty shirts and trousers - he left before junior school so don't know him anymore.

i did have a child like this and my fav activity would be to put him in the bath in the morning for a play and wash him (tell parents he had been painting and got messy) i would then wash his clothes and he used my spare clothes for the day then b4 mum came i would put his own clothes back on

maybe i'm fussy but when your out people think they are your children and i would feel when they were mucky (and i dont mean play mucky that is healthly)

Mayb ring someone from NCMA just to ask advice without giving personal details!
Are we allowed to bath the children?

i bathed my mindee when he was ill as he was sick all over himself.

i wouldnt have thought it neglect as mum is lovely woman but personal hygene IS an issue, for both?!
but maybe im too 'clean'??, i pick up smells and notice dirt like a magnet!

I think this is about having different standards

I find this very difficult as I don't want dirty people/children in my house - I do however accept that this is unreasonable of me

Clean them while you have them might be the way I go

Get them fingerpainting then use a scrubbing brush - once they are clean, a have a go every few days

Clothes are more of a problem - a couple of times I have fibbed and said we are going to a party can you put something clean in to get changed into......then I have not needed to suggest it again

I don't demand high fashion or expensive brands & I don't mind stains/marks but I don't like muck!!

my DS aged 3 1/2 has black dirt under his nails within a couple of hours of waking up each day. Obviously I do my best, but I bet there have been the odd times when he's gone to nursery like that - I'd hate to think people would assume he was uncared for. He's just a normal active little boy. However I'd never let him leave the house in grubby clothes.

top was very dirty today muck all up sleeves (chocolate/mud?) and nales were same as yesterday but a little worse?..thing is we dont go anywhere to get that mucky, so shes been like this all over weekend? and she was at mine at 8.30 so its not like she could ahve 'got' dirty many places?

they are really both lovely, just i think this is something i would be/i am strong on, esp if they have their hands in mouth all the time

scrubbed nales yesterday, got blunt scissors and dug out the stubborn muck and cut finger nales really short!..told mum id done it cos she was scratching herself

nails not nales????!!!

weldone strawberry but be careful cutting nails not sure we are allowed to do that but if mum didnt mind thats ok

btw are we allowed to look for nits? didnt think we were but local childminder does

did i do something wrong there??
i told the mum and she just smiled and said thats fine!?

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i know what you mean, i think next time her nails are very dirty and could do with a cut ill ask mum to do it and say its because she's been scratching( herself..she has very dry skin/excema).
i just cant understand how she can leave her like this?, i know not everyone bathes each night, but children get mucky fact and need a good wash down if nothing else

I have to say that I agree with you on the dirty front. When ds used to go to a cm, then he had clean clothes on, and he was clean with a clean nappy etc.

I wouldn't have dreamt of sendinghim 2 hours after he got up in the same nappy, or with a top in that is dirty, but we are not all the same.

I haev cut a little girls nails as well that I cm for, but I did ask mum first as I said she was scratching. I actually did it as they were so long, they were growing outwards - yuck on an 18 month old!

dmo - if a child starts scratching their head in my house, I would certainly start checking for nits!!

I don't think you'd be allowed to kill them (the nits, not the children) because it would probably contravene some obscure Ofsted rule though!

oh thats not fair (no killing children)

when i worked at nursery i checked (even though you wernt allowed) said we were playing hairdressing
nursery manager then stopped hairdressing corner

i would look but didnt know if you could

what about smells then..like very smelly feet and dirty socks??

i stick by bathing them and putting my own spare clothes on them

i just think well..its a bit much to expect your cm to wash/bath/tidy/manicure your child!as well as buying blamnkets cos their freezing when out and about!..i most definatly wouldnt! and now i know how hard working full time is.. i still wouldnt

Laughing at the smells thing lol.

I have a 2 year old mindee that has BO!!!!

How do you get around that one??

well this is smelly feet(trainers with no socks up until this week) and smells when am helping on toileyt ie:not washed

5mth old baby comes to mine smelling of sick, no socks,no coat
went to charty shop got her a coat,socks,spare clothes to keep at mine

i wash her most days and wash the car seat, bankets,clothes,pram every other day (dont think dad notices) makes me feel better