Self employed as a nanny?

[HappierThanEverBefore]

I've recently had my hours cut & found other jobs to cover this.

I'll be working for 4 families now as a nanny so thinking about being self employed

I was discussing this with the employer who has cut my hours, she's no longer willing to pay holiday pay for when she's away or when I wish to take time off.

All the other families that I'll be working for have agreed to pay in full when they are away or half when I am away..

How does being self employed work as a nanny?

Where do I stand with the employer refusing to pay holiday

Self employed people don't get holiday pay, a contract, any of that sort of thing. You would give clients your terms of business, your rate would take into a consideration that you don't get the rights an employee gets.

Is the work ad-hoc enough to be self employment. If it is same days, same hours, obligation to turn up, then it may be employment.

You can have many employments.

For your current job where they are your employer, contact ACAS for advice. Have you got a written contract/written statement?

I had similar job cut. We renegotiated gross pay and contract. As it was same time and day each week it was not ad hoc so couldn't be self-employed. If your employer is unwilling to do this, I advise you to get another part time post. Tbh if the employer is not willing to pay holiday etc, imo she is not showing signs of valuing you.

As above, if you do, say every Monday morning for one family, it has to be employed, if they ring you up and say "are you free on wed this week" and you can say yes or no in any given week, it's self employed.

Is it possible to be employed by one family and then self employed? The job where hours are cut is the same each week

The other varies with days and times etc

Yes you can be both. I'm a GP and I am employed by one practice, regular hours, holiday pay etc and self employed for ad hoc locum work I do at other practices.

Yes, many of us are I suspect. I do a small amount of ad-hoc care work (taking children with SEN to theme parks, supervising them at tennis clubs, that sort of thing) and have a 4-day a week nanny job.

The job you have been doing is still a job, it's still the same employment status as it was when you started it. The change in hours makes no difference to employment status.

You can have numerous jobs. One year I think I ended up having 3 different jobs (it was a while ago now) - one nannying, one nursery temping, one seasonal work at theme park, all in which I was an employee.

Remember that if you do self employed work you need to register for self assessment, keep accounts, file tax return, keep receipts for things you can claim (possibly not that many things), invoice clients, chase bad debts.

The work you do where the days and times varies - do you have control over if you do the work? Can you say "Sorry, I can't do that day" and have no come back from that except for the client may not ask you quite so often if you turn them down frequently.

The best people to talk to about this would be HMRC as you need to check your eligibility as being self employed. Give their Newly Self Employed Helpline a call on 0300 200 3504 and talk it through with them.

Best of luck! :-)