I know this might be odd.... but.

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I have recently found a nanny I'm keen to higher and am in the prices of doing my due diligence. As I'm totally new to all of this and therefore super nervous about it all I wondered if I'm allowed to ask her for:

1. A CRB/DBS check on her partner? Although he's not going to be employed by us I do wonder if I need to be extra safe as he might be around to pick her up etc therefore have access to my children, possibly without me having ever met him?

1. Can I ask (with her permission of course) to speak with her GP to see if there are any medical issues I need to be aware of? I know I'll need her permission but is this a tad ott?

I don't want to freak her out and put her off from accepting, but I feel I do need to be extra thorough as she'll have sole access over my kids in private behind closed doors. I also know that if I'm this para then maybe I should consider other options but having spent weeks researching and thinking about it 24/7 this is really our best option. She seems perfect, and my instincts are positive but I feel I need to be sure and thorough.

Any other things I need to be aware of/do?

Thanks for your help!

In a word. No.

1. No.
2. No.

Wow!!!!!

If I was gonna be your nanny and you asked my partner to do a CRB check and asked for my medical records, i probably wouldn't take the position to be honest, not that I'm hiding anything. Just that I feel this is to much.

A nanny will normally have mummy/ nanny friends and kids over, these are not going to all be CRB checked...
Totally understand the 'safe' aspect but not only men harm children

No and No
How would you feel if you were asked to do this?
Maybe she should ask you for references. You and your ?DP may be axe murdering cult members.

Right.....

Point one - I don't think you can legally get a crb check on someone you are not employing. It is a bit paranoid, what about when your children start going to other peoples houses for tea/playdates - will you want to crb check the parents?

Point two - I would not agree to this at all (and I don't think the gp would divulge medical records to a third party anyway). It's a real invasion of privacy, would you be happy to give your employer access to your personal medical records?

Okay thanks.
I understand your points and appreciate them. I wasn't sure if I wanted to ask them anyway but wanted to sense check for now as I'm new to this.
But to answer some of your questions.... I'd be happy for her to see my medical records as I'm sure my GP would only divulge aspects that were deemed relevant. And I'm also happy for both myself and my DP to get a CRB check if it helped her to be confident in coming into our family. Fairs fair and I should never ask anyone to do something I wouldn't do myself. I'd want her to feel happy and safe with us as I'd view her as part of the family as she'll be playing such a huge role in our lives. I'd value her opinions and choices as I hope she would mine. And I'd like to think I'd be open to her questions.
But having said that I do feel it might not be the best way to start our relationship and thank you for your thoughts.

Please consider PepsiTwirl's comment....

A nanny will normally have mummy/ nanny friends and kids over, these are not going to all be CRB checked...

If you don't want your dc to have contact with anyone who has not been DBS checked, then you need to consider a nursery rather than a childminder or nanny.

No to both.

Their partner may never come anywhere near your house. If they were coming to pick her up, you would be at home, so it's not as though your children would be left alone with them.

Gov.uk Employers Checks - looks like medical check can't be done as there is no legal requirement or requirement arising from insurance cover.

Do background checks - ask previous employers about amount of time off/sickness. Get a feel for the applicants general health that way.

Are you for real? Genuinely?

How would you get a DBS check done? You can't just apply for one.

If you are recruiting privately, then contact a nanny agency to see what screening service they offer - Tinies can do DBS checks.

If a prospective employer started asking for those things I'd decline the job offer. It starts the relationship off on the wrong foot, and makes you as employers appear hard work. No thanks.

You hire someone not higher. Maybe your phone predicting text ?
And others have said No and No.
Why would a Nanny's partner have access to your children?
Surely if he picks her up from work either your husband or yourself will be home?
A GP would not share anyone's medical history with a third party. You can have it written in the contract that if she is off sick for x period of time she undergoes a medical at your expense.
As others have said an experienced nanny (ie one who can pick and choose their jobs) would probably take another job if you suggested checking their partners.
Are you getting confused because childminder's family members are DBS checked. But that's because the children are in their home.

Typo due to predictive texts! Sorry.

I wasn't aware of how the DBS checks worked to be honest. But I get it now. It does seem rather desperate so probably not best option.

I like your suggestion Nannynick re. Off sick days.

Thank you again

Phone her previous employers and never rely on a written reference. Do not necessarily trust agencies to forward half wobbly references.

Why don't you just ask her if sshe has any medical issues, why would yet ask her doctor?

I think you're too nervous to have a nanny. it involves having a lot of trust and handing over responsibility for your children to him/her. You will alienate any nanny like this. I have much sympathy for you, as we all have the collywobbles when first employing a nanny, but you have to trust your nanny, if there's no trust BOTH your lives will be hell!

You may be better off with a nursery.

I think you would be much better off staying home with your DC. If you can't do that then I really think you need to use a nursery.

I understand how hard it is to trust someone who is going to be looking after your children, but you are showing an unusual level of concern and I think it might be a good idea to go and see your GP and talk to them about how you are feeling

I think perhaps the Op has got confused: both these things are requirements for a childminder - but it's Ofsted that does the checking, not the parent (who isn't an employee, of course).
I don't know if Ofsted or agencies check registered nannies to this extent.

It's different for a nanny because he or she works in your home so your child is much less likely to come across members of the nanny's family.

As others have said no and no

Employing a nanny your children are unlikely to meet her partner - unless go to her house an they are about - if you want to you can prohibit ever see if partner tho that is extreme

My little one gets very excited if sees dp - he knows who he is due to pic on phone and has met him think 3times

If you use a cm then their partner will be checked as will anyone over 16 in her house

Again as others have said I feel you have too many trust issues to have a nanny and you would be better off using a nursery where there are many ears and eyes

You can asks how many sick days she has had and check with ex employer as well

No to both and as a nanny I would probably decline your offer just for asking.
You can and its common to ask for a letter from her GP declaring her fit to work but speak to her GP that is way OTT.
And police checking her husband makes you sound highly paranoid. Her DH/DP has no need to ever be around your children just make that clear to her.
I have been married 7 years out of the 12 I have been a nanny for only on one occassion has my DH came in contact with my charges, and that was only to drop off a pair of trousers because I had fallen and was caked with mud. And at that time we all lived in the same Villiage.

ask for a letter from her GP declaring her fit to work

a GP with any sense will decline to do this - it carries significant medicolegal risk to declare someone fit for work without a detailed knowledge of their job. And of course a GP can't do a report and leave some bits out as suggested upthread. You can get a letter from her GP, with her consent, documenting her medical history, for her fee, but personally I wouldn't ask that if employing a nanny.

COI I'm a GP

I'm not a nanny employer but would say, ref the second point, that if you're employing someone in an organisation, you would never speak to their GP. And no GP would discuss a patient with you either.
What you'd do is organise an occupational health assessment, which most big companies have in house. The Occ Health nurse would confirm to you only that the potential employee is or isn't fit to do the job offered, nothing re medical history.
I don't know if there are Occ Health services that would do assessments for individual employers but that is the professional way to ensure someone is fit to do the job being offered.

green really, I've actually had a GP do this for me and I've known other nannies who have done it too. I'm sure agencies used to ask for it too.

I think as a nanny I would be very wary of taking a job where the employer wanted to DBS my bf if I had one. And no way to medical records. They are private and are none of your concern. Anything that is your concern I'm sure will be fully disclosed by the professional who you are hiring.

green really, I've actually had a GP do this for me

well I hope they don't use the same company for their litigation insurance as I do, because maybe that's why my premiums are so high! Any GP who signs a letter saying that someone is fit to do a job, without exact knowledge of what the job entails and at least some occupational health training is asking for trouble.